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Firminator
08-06-2002, 09:41 AM
Came across an ad for this stuff. This is the info:

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Stay One Step Ahead of Your Competition! You got stronger when Ed Byrd introduced creatine in 1993. Now you get bigger with his NO2:

NO2 was created by the same man who introduced creatine to the market in 1993 - Ed Byrd, co-founder of EAS™ and now president of Medical Research Institute - MRI.

What is NO2?
NO2 has created a revolutionary new category of muscle-builders and muscle-enhancers known as 'cell-signaling hemodilators.'

Through mediation of the "signaling-molecule" nitric oxide (NO), NO2 induces powerful hemodilation and creates dramatic increases in muscle size, strength, endurance, power output, and load capacity.

With its advanced sustained-release technology "pHyser3", NO2 generates a virtual permanent muscle pump, now known as the "perpetual pump."

What's a "Perpetual Pump?"
The "Perpetual Pump" is a muscle pump that literally does not go away. It's a muscle that remains in its post-exercise, blood-engorged, rock-hard condition. The increased muscle size and muscle "density" do not fade with time.

How is the "perpetual pump" possible?
The "perpetual pump" is a brand new phenomenon. It's one of the stunning effects of sustained hemodilation.

"Serious bodybuilders know the skin-ripping, super-pumped look they get immediately after a super intense workout" explains Ed Byrd, co-founder EAS, President MRI, and the man who introduced bodybuilding's last great breakthrough - creatine. "Now, thanks to NO2's sustained hemodilating effect, they can keep that super-vascular look all day long." Here's how...

Increased blood flow is responsible for your pump. Your body responds to exercise by releasing nitric oxide. Nitric oxide is the muscle's "signaling molecule" responsible for increased blood flow.

Nitric oxide opens the blood 'floodgates,' and blood surges in(hemodilation). You get a pump. But the exercise-induced pump is only temporary. It disappears soon after the body realizes exercise has ended.

But with NO2, pumps do not go away. Even massive, vein-popping pumps show no sign of diminishing. That's because NO2 generates a 'continuous surge' of blood that courses through the skeletal muscle throughout the day. So muscles remain engorged and steel-like all day long. The secret of the continuous surge of blood lies in NO2's exclusive nitric oxide extended-release delivery system pHyser3™.

Until the creation of extended-release delivery system, generating and maintaining nitric oxide levels was impossible. The body literally "dissolved" any agent or substance that could help generate nitric oxide inside the body. Now, with NO2's pH-corrected, body-compatible delivery system, the human body is able to fully "accept" the nitric oxide delivery agent. And even better...

NO2 goes far beyond generating nitric oxide levels. NO2 maintains nitric oxide levels in the muscles throughout the entire day. So athletes and bodybuilders get all the powerful muscle-developing benefits of hemodilation - all day long. Including the very appealing "Perpetual Pump."

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From what I have been able to find out, apparently some kind of time-release arginine derivative is being used. Would really like to hear Bryan's or Lyle's spin on this stuff. Also anybody that has tried it. It costs about $2 per day - not cheap like Creatine. Can't find much info on it except for ads and you know how truthful they can be.
http://www.hypertrophy-specific.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif *

I've never tried any of the pro-hormone products and was wondering if maybe this would be a step-up from creatine but not as radical (for me *http://www.hypertrophy-specific.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif ) as pro-hormones.

Chris Johnson
08-06-2002, 08:58 PM
Firminator, NO2 is simply one of the best nutritional products I've ever used - and that's quite an endorsement from me because I've used a lot! I've gotten bigger, stronger, and leaner on the stuff and can't recommend it highly enough. Now, keep in mind that I do sell the stuff so there is the chance that I'm pulling your leg to make a high ticket item sale (we sell it for $109.99 CDN), but once you try it you'll probably agree with me. I think you'll like it even better than the majority of prohormones out there.

A couple things to keep in mind though. DO NOT use ephedrine or other stimulants while using NO2. Many "non-repsonders" are guilty of this. Stimulants restrict blood flow while NO2 enhances it. One step forward, one step back. The other thing is, if you're over 200 pounds or don't feel anything after three to four days on three tablets twice a day, boost the intake to four twice per day.

If you have any other questions just ask. http://www.hypertrophy-specific.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

Steve McDermott
08-07-2002, 08:00 AM
Very interesting Chris. *I noticed that it is basically just Arginine. Could one just take an equal amount of Arginine an get the same effects? *Is there something different about the delivery system?

Steve

BIZ
08-07-2002, 08:35 AM
This has peaked my interest! Want to hear more!

Muscle Monthly
08-07-2002, 12:05 PM
Bryan, a little help?

Hankster
08-07-2002, 03:53 PM
hemodilation, nitric oxide - sorta like Viagra, then, but whole body? If it really works I wonder if it pumps up the old Love Pump as well! *http://www.hypertrophy-specific.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

"Viagra works by inhibiting the degradation of a similar second messenger called cyclic GMP (caused by the production of nitric oxide) that also causes vasodilation.
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Cyclic GMP is formed in response to increased nitric oxide production. So, how do you make more nitric oxide? The answer: consume protein that is rich in the amino acid arginine. And what foods are rich in arginine? Soybeans and turkey." - The Anti-Aging Zone by Dr. Barry Sears

mikeynov
08-07-2002, 05:59 PM
Haven't really heard a thing about this...being perpetually skeptical, I'll remain quite skeptical http://www.hypertrophy-specific.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

Hearing Bryan or Lyle's input on this would be very helpful...

Tatsuo
08-11-2002, 09:08 AM
It's a great product, lives up to all its claims. But it's a bit expensive and irritates cold sores.

Steve McDermott
08-12-2002, 08:24 AM
What does it do to cold sores? I have a tendency to get them from time to time and definitely don't want to agravate them.

Steve

Chris Johnson
08-14-2002, 05:43 PM
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Could one just take an equal amount of Arginine an get the same effects?[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
Steve,
Taking regular arginine will not replicate the effects of NO2. *Actually, even taking argine alpha-ketoglutarate without the physer3 delivery system may not work. *Physer3 is a pharmaceutical delivery system and not just a gimic (as so many &quot;delivery systems&quot; tend to be).

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">If it really works I wonder if it pumps up the old Love Pump as well&#33;[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
Hankster,
Although I assume your question was in jest, I can answer for you that, yes, NO2 does mimic viagra (to some degree) in the &quot;Love Pump&quot; category. There is a definite increase in rigidity in that region when erect.

scratch
08-21-2003, 06:15 PM
Bryan, Lyle, any comment on this product?

Help us out a little bit.

Someone with a little more credibility than 13 posts please.

scratch
08-21-2003, 06:17 PM
Bryan, Lyle, any comment on this product?

Help us out a little bit.

Someone with a little more credibility than 13 posts please.

LFROG17
08-22-2003, 07:01 PM
which NO2 product do u take Chris?

Aaron_F
08-22-2003, 09:44 PM
Considering there is NO http://www.hypertrophy-specific.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif research showing increases in LBM, and also a large proportion of negative feedback on the product, why would anyone pay 110&#036; it

just take roids,at least we know they work http://www.hypertrophy-specific.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif http://www.hypertrophy-specific.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/crazy.gif

the only supplements with decent research behind them are creatine and HMB, and even HMB can be questioned.

And Ed brining us creatine? huh, creatine supplementation was used early in the 20th century in research. British olympic athletes were using it prior to the 1992 olympics.
Maybe ed brought it to the merican bbing community, but he only did that to make money. Not help everyone get &#39;big&#39; n stuff.

shogun99
10-16-2004, 03:53 PM
I took NO2 as well and man....did it WORK&#33;
it took a little time and you are supposed to get better results off the 2nd bottle. I only used it once and towards the end i was bigger, harder and way WAY stronger. I mean seriously....by day 19, i would leave arm day so hard and big that it was just insane. My girlfriend actually commented &quot;you look like one of those freaks you always talk about&quot;



oh...to be called a freak.... http://www.hypertrophy-specific.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/worship.gif

MrNasty
10-16-2004, 04:44 PM
I know a couple guys who have taken NO2. They liked it. They mentioned feeling like they had a 24hr gym pump 7 days a week. No mention, though, of the love pump. I dont remember any of them reporting LBM gain, except one, who mention a gain of 5lbs. He could have been on a number of products though. Who knows.

Personally, I&#39;ll save my money and/or purchase some gear.

Bryan Haycock
10-20-2004, 06:27 PM
Its just expensive arginine. The claims to sell it are misleading. The product is not anabolic. If you must supplement with arginine, just buy some from a reputable company and skip the NO2 money trap.

sentricyphen
10-21-2004, 09:32 PM
ive taken arginine in massive doses, and while I don&#39;t want to discount the experiences of others, I saw zero vasodialtion.

Perhaps it&#39;s possible that I already have a high level of nitric oxide? Or perhaps arginines effects are vastly overrated and hyped.