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spikehead
07-15-2005, 04:30 PM
Is muscle hardness (in a relaxed, non-pumped state) a function of how much body fat you have? I was wondering whether I could expect my muscles to feel harder by lowering my body fat. That would be great motivation for me to lose body fat.

chiefhog
07-15-2005, 05:11 PM
This is completely anecdodal evidence, but I believe that to an extent, muscle "firmness" or "hardness" has a strong genetic component. For example, my BF is pretty low, most people consider me "cut." This gives me the look of muscularity. When any of my muscles are flacid, they are pretty soft. In contrast, I have a buddy who is about the same body composition and has about the same muscularity who is hard as a freakin' rock. There is a noticeable difference between the two of us.

Why? I have no clue. I've tried to do a little research on the subject and have not really come up with anything. Maybe this is something Bryan can shed some light on.

What I can tell you is that yes, lower BF helps your muscles to feel more firm. Less fat in those adipose cells to feel all squishy. *http://www.hypertrophy-specific.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

spikehead
07-25-2005, 01:17 PM
Thanks for your reply chiefhog. Does anyone else have something to share on this topic?

OneMoreRep
07-26-2005, 12:40 AM
I don't think an uncontracted muscle is supposed to be hard...

Old and Grey
07-26-2005, 07:14 AM
With mammals and birds, the older the animal, the tougher and stringier the meat is. I suspect the same to be true in Man. Most men do not get that "mature" look in their muscles until age 25 or so. Therefore, I would guess that age is the biggest factor in getting that 'hard' look assuming, of course, the requisite leanness is already there.

imported_daxie
07-26-2005, 09:30 AM
so you must look like really really really hard O&G? http://www.hypertrophy-specific.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif

addy
07-26-2005, 10:12 AM
do a search on vinegar (acetic acid). many have reported a fuller (non-bloated) look by ingesting it after training and with a bunch of carbs (malto, for example).

spikehead
07-26-2005, 01:32 PM
I'm starting to realize that firm muscles when not flexed or pumped is not a good thing and not something I should strive for. However I can't help but want some more firmness.

Zanderlini
07-28-2005, 08:44 AM
Water retention is also a factor in muscle hardness. As far as I know my muscles are a lot harder (although smaller) when i'm not hydrated.

Old and Grey
07-28-2005, 09:57 AM
That's why I look like I was chiseled out of granite Daxie. http://www.hypertrophy-specific.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/dozingoff.gif http://www.hypertrophy-specific.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sleeping.gif http://www.hypertrophy-specific.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sleeping.gif http://www.hypertrophy-specific.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/laugh.gif