6-oxo, DHEA, Tribulus Terrestris srack
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scientific muscle
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The legal route has very little bang for any buck.
AAS will give you BANG for the buck, but not legal in most countries.
AAS will give you BANG for the buck, but not legal in most countries.
scientific muscle
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If you are not ready to at least double your test levels, then save your money and stay 'natural'.
richard richard
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Superdrol if you can get it on your side of the pond, it's still available in the uk under a new name. Thats the strongest legal sup available that I know of.
Morgoth the Dark Enemy
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Then again, Superdrol is not a supplement at all, but a designer steroid sold through a loophole. The OP seems to be quite leery of using proper Vitamin S.
richard richard
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yep can't argue with you on that one, but at least you can legally posses/purchase it. (over here anyway).
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(Morgoth the Dark Enemy @ Apr. 27 2007,07:28)</div><div id="QUOTEHEAD">QUOTE</div><div id="QUOTE">Then again, Superdrol is not a supplement at all, but a designer steroid sold through a loophole. The OP seems to be quite leery of using proper Vitamin S.</div>
Yes, I suppose I am. I'm 37 now and I've been pretty horrible to my body over the years in one way and another so I just want to be nice to it for a while
I'm sure I will look to more 'efficient' means of adding muscle one day.
J
(Morgoth the Dark Enemy @ Apr. 27 2007,07:28)</div><div id="QUOTEHEAD">QUOTE</div><div id="QUOTE">Then again, Superdrol is not a supplement at all, but a designer steroid sold through a loophole. The OP seems to be quite leery of using proper Vitamin S.</div>
Yes, I suppose I am. I'm 37 now and I've been pretty horrible to my body over the years in one way and another so I just want to be nice to it for a while
I'm sure I will look to more 'efficient' means of adding muscle one day.
J
Morgoth the Dark Enemy
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Stupid question to the OP-why are you considering this T-boosting crap?IMHO, the things are like this-get everything in order(diet, training, rest, actually get to know your stuff), grow to something respectable(maybe you are, no disrespect intended here) and decide from there:either:
a)I`m a masochist(some of us are, mostly due to the extreme pain in the ass getting pharmaceuticals would be and really not caring enough about them) and I`m gonna stay natural and do everything I can with my less than optimal God-given system(more complex diet schemes, tweaking all aspects of training etc.)-this path can be quite pleasing really, but it depends on the one walking it.
b)Screw it, I`m going to do gear-which is again OK, but do it in an educated fashion. There`s a lot of reading involved...more than you usually have to read about dieting and training. It`s a tad more technical. And it`s not a very precise science, you`ll have to ascertain a lot of stuff by yourself. What it brings is the huge advantage of giving the finger to most of the things that screw up muscle-building endeavours:less than optimal partitioning, poor recovery, limited elevation of protein synthesis etc. If done properly, it`s safe. It`s a matter of choice, really.
The OTC stuff is crap, and isn`t going to do much(6-OXO works, mind you, it`s a mildly good anti-estrogen, I just don`t think it`ll do all that much to you).
a)I`m a masochist(some of us are, mostly due to the extreme pain in the ass getting pharmaceuticals would be and really not caring enough about them) and I`m gonna stay natural and do everything I can with my less than optimal God-given system(more complex diet schemes, tweaking all aspects of training etc.)-this path can be quite pleasing really, but it depends on the one walking it.
b)Screw it, I`m going to do gear-which is again OK, but do it in an educated fashion. There`s a lot of reading involved...more than you usually have to read about dieting and training. It`s a tad more technical. And it`s not a very precise science, you`ll have to ascertain a lot of stuff by yourself. What it brings is the huge advantage of giving the finger to most of the things that screw up muscle-building endeavours:less than optimal partitioning, poor recovery, limited elevation of protein synthesis etc. If done properly, it`s safe. It`s a matter of choice, really.
The OTC stuff is crap, and isn`t going to do much(6-OXO works, mind you, it`s a mildly good anti-estrogen, I just don`t think it`ll do all that much to you).
Fair question. No offense at all taken.
For a long time I lived a pretty unhealthy lifestyle although I have trained for years with pretty crappy results (not surprising really). The training part is sorted by HST I reckon. I've been using that for a while now with much better results than anything previous. The diet is getting there with my major vice that was stopping me gain (alcohol - lots of) pretty much gone.
So I've been cutting for a while, lost 14 pounds or so but am still probably in the mid 20% BF range at 188 pounds. I'm 5'9 smallish build but look like I lift (I reckon) apart from a nearly gone gut. Arms were 16" last time I looked.
Something caught my eye on another forum about this stack and I just thought it would be great to finish this cut quicker and maybe add a pound or 2 of LBM on the way.
Sorry for the life story.
J
For a long time I lived a pretty unhealthy lifestyle although I have trained for years with pretty crappy results (not surprising really). The training part is sorted by HST I reckon. I've been using that for a while now with much better results than anything previous. The diet is getting there with my major vice that was stopping me gain (alcohol - lots of) pretty much gone.
So I've been cutting for a while, lost 14 pounds or so but am still probably in the mid 20% BF range at 188 pounds. I'm 5'9 smallish build but look like I lift (I reckon) apart from a nearly gone gut. Arms were 16" last time I looked.
Something caught my eye on another forum about this stack and I just thought it would be great to finish this cut quicker and maybe add a pound or 2 of LBM on the way.
Sorry for the life story.
J
Morgoth the Dark Enemy
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In that context it certainly won`t help. Congratulations on getting things in order.