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WHY do i keep reading that lower intensity cardio isn't good for fat-burning?? i commonly see the argument that you become more efficient at doing it the more you do it so therefore less an less energy is expended. true or totally not?!?
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"Heavy squats and deadlifts may not be good for you long term."
— Mike Boyle</div>
i thought they were extremely beneficial for you.... whaaaa?
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"Heavy squats and deadlifts may not be good for you long term."
— Mike Boyle</div>
i thought they were extremely beneficial for you.... whaaaa?
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(_Simon_ @ Aug. 21 2008,1:19)</div><div id="QUOTEHEAD">QUOTE</div><div id="QUOTE">WHY do i keep reading that lower intensity cardio isn't good for fat-burning?? i commonly see the argument that you become more efficient at doing it the more you do it so therefore less an less energy is expended. true or totally not?!?
<div></div><div id="QUOTEHEAD">QUOTE</div><div id="QUOTE">
"Heavy squats and deadlifts may not be good for you long term."
— Mike Boyle</div>
i thought they were extremely beneficial for you.... whaaaa?</div>
no they are really bad, you could end up strong as an ox and have huge muscles if you do them!
stop deadlifting n stay small!
youve been warned!
(_Simon_ @ Aug. 21 2008,1:19)</div><div id="QUOTEHEAD">QUOTE</div><div id="QUOTE">WHY do i keep reading that lower intensity cardio isn't good for fat-burning?? i commonly see the argument that you become more efficient at doing it the more you do it so therefore less an less energy is expended. true or totally not?!?
<div></div><div id="QUOTEHEAD">QUOTE</div><div id="QUOTE">
"Heavy squats and deadlifts may not be good for you long term."
— Mike Boyle</div>
i thought they were extremely beneficial for you.... whaaaa?</div>
no they are really bad, you could end up strong as an ox and have huge muscles if you do them!
stop deadlifting n stay small!
youve been warned!
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(Minime @ Aug. 21 2008,7:36)</div><div id="QUOTEHEAD">QUOTE</div><div id="QUOTE">Haha, you just have to love that logic: "I hurt my back when trying to deadlift 500 pounds, ergo, deadlifts are bad". Anechdotal evidence someone?</div>
It is strange, "exclude the middle" logic.
No, athletes shouldn't be trained like powerlifters, so working too much on their 1 RM strength seems retarded to me.
That said, there's a reason squats and deadlifts have the reputation they do as two of the most useful exercises in existence for making people stronger. I've heard strength is important for many athletes.
Anyways, if you want some tips on how to have squats not destroy your athletes:
* Teach them proper full squats. Enforce actually good technique in both.
* Don't train or test them, in general, beyond ~5 RM.
* Consider having them deadlift with a double overhand grip. This way, they will tend to fail (grip) before their mechanics go bonkers. It has the added bonuses of actually loading the spine symmetrically as well as being a terribly useful grip exercise, too.
(Minime @ Aug. 21 2008,7:36)</div><div id="QUOTEHEAD">QUOTE</div><div id="QUOTE">Haha, you just have to love that logic: "I hurt my back when trying to deadlift 500 pounds, ergo, deadlifts are bad". Anechdotal evidence someone?</div>
It is strange, "exclude the middle" logic.
No, athletes shouldn't be trained like powerlifters, so working too much on their 1 RM strength seems retarded to me.
That said, there's a reason squats and deadlifts have the reputation they do as two of the most useful exercises in existence for making people stronger. I've heard strength is important for many athletes.
Anyways, if you want some tips on how to have squats not destroy your athletes:
* Teach them proper full squats. Enforce actually good technique in both.
* Don't train or test them, in general, beyond ~5 RM.
* Consider having them deadlift with a double overhand grip. This way, they will tend to fail (grip) before their mechanics go bonkers. It has the added bonuses of actually loading the spine symmetrically as well as being a terribly useful grip exercise, too.
Joe.Muscle
Active Member
Mikey....or anybody else who can chime in on this answer for me.
I have recently started playing Golf....playing a lot of golf at that.
And well I don't know how to change my training around to help my routine.
See there is a couple of things I am good at...I know the basics, and enough science and nutrition to get bigger / bulkier if I need to with no problem!
However I don't know jack squat about TRUE CORE TRAINING or any type of golf fitness.
Do you guys have any suggestion of a good start point?
I have recently started playing Golf....playing a lot of golf at that.
And well I don't know how to change my training around to help my routine.
See there is a couple of things I am good at...I know the basics, and enough science and nutrition to get bigger / bulkier if I need to with no problem!
However I don't know jack squat about TRUE CORE TRAINING or any type of golf fitness.
Do you guys have any suggestion of a good start point?
bgates1654
New Member
Core Training:
Squats
Deadlift
(Power) Clean
(Power) Snatch
Jerk
OH Squat
Gymnastics (levers and such)
Press
Thrusters
etc.
Best golf training would be a general strength/power routine that gets you strong and powerful as fast as possible and lots of sport specific training to nail down your technique.
Squats
Deadlift
(Power) Clean
(Power) Snatch
Jerk
OH Squat
Gymnastics (levers and such)
Press
Thrusters
etc.
Best golf training would be a general strength/power routine that gets you strong and powerful as fast as possible and lots of sport specific training to nail down your technique.
<div></div><div id="QUOTEHEAD">QUOTE</div><div id="QUOTE">WHY do i keep reading that lower intensity cardio isn't good for fat-burning?? i commonly see the argument that you become more efficient at doing it the more you do it so therefore less an less energy is expended. true or totally not?!?</div>
i would say not both HIIT ss high and low all have benefits,and all burn cals "which is the point"
there are arguments for both ie HIIT takes less time than ss-cardio.
i have found that if i do ss-cardio that i still have enough energy to do all required activity's for the day,
but if i do HIIT i tend to sit about alot more,eat alot more so over the day cals probably equalls out.
i would say not both HIIT ss high and low all have benefits,and all burn cals "which is the point"
there are arguments for both ie HIIT takes less time than ss-cardio.
i have found that if i do ss-cardio that i still have enough energy to do all required activity's for the day,
but if i do HIIT i tend to sit about alot more,eat alot more so over the day cals probably equalls out.
Bulldog
Active Member
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(Joe.Muscle @ Aug. 22 2008,8:34)</div><div id="QUOTEHEAD">QUOTE</div><div id="QUOTE">Mikey....or anybody else who can chime in on this answer for me.
I have recently started playing Golf....playing a lot of golf at that.
And well I don't know how to change my training around to help my routine.
See there is a couple of things I am good at...I know the basics, and enough science and nutrition to get bigger / bulkier if I need to with no problem!
However I don't know jack squat about TRUE CORE TRAINING or any type of golf fitness.
Do you guys have any suggestion of a good start point?</div>
Besides general overall strength training like you are already doing the best training for playing golf it to simply play golf and hit A LOT of golf balls.
Strength is not required to hit a golf ball a long distance. Club head speed, techinque and proper timing is what is important. The strength will help with overall club head speed but it won't do anything for swing technique and proper timing to be sure you are at maximum club head speed WHEN you make contact with the ball. You will only get that from hitting a crap load of golf balls.
And then of course there is the fact that being able to hitting a golf ball a long distance doesn't necessarily translate to being a good golfer. Accuracy is the most important thing. And in all honestly a good short game will make the biggest difference in most peoples golf game. If you can chip and put well you will most likely become a pretty good golfer regardless how far you can hit the ball.
(Joe.Muscle @ Aug. 22 2008,8:34)</div><div id="QUOTEHEAD">QUOTE</div><div id="QUOTE">Mikey....or anybody else who can chime in on this answer for me.
I have recently started playing Golf....playing a lot of golf at that.
And well I don't know how to change my training around to help my routine.
See there is a couple of things I am good at...I know the basics, and enough science and nutrition to get bigger / bulkier if I need to with no problem!
However I don't know jack squat about TRUE CORE TRAINING or any type of golf fitness.
Do you guys have any suggestion of a good start point?</div>
Besides general overall strength training like you are already doing the best training for playing golf it to simply play golf and hit A LOT of golf balls.
Strength is not required to hit a golf ball a long distance. Club head speed, techinque and proper timing is what is important. The strength will help with overall club head speed but it won't do anything for swing technique and proper timing to be sure you are at maximum club head speed WHEN you make contact with the ball. You will only get that from hitting a crap load of golf balls.
And then of course there is the fact that being able to hitting a golf ball a long distance doesn't necessarily translate to being a good golfer. Accuracy is the most important thing. And in all honestly a good short game will make the biggest difference in most peoples golf game. If you can chip and put well you will most likely become a pretty good golfer regardless how far you can hit the ball.
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(Joe.Muscle @ Aug. 22 2008,8:34)</div><div id="QUOTEHEAD">QUOTE</div><div id="QUOTE">Mikey....or anybody else who can chime in on this answer for me.
I have recently started playing Golf....playing a lot of golf at that.
And well I don't know how to change my training around to help my routine.
See there is a couple of things I am good at...I know the basics, and enough science and nutrition to get bigger / bulkier if I need to with no problem!
However I don't know jack squat about TRUE CORE TRAINING or any type of golf fitness.
Do you guys have any suggestion of a good start point?</div>
I agree with bgates all those exercises are awesome for core.
I have taught several people the inch worm or do these and of course the macebell which being a martial artist strengthen my core considerably.
Along with the swiss ball (I know, I know
). But I tell you my core strength has gone up considerably doing these exercises.
But that is just me.
(Joe.Muscle @ Aug. 22 2008,8:34)</div><div id="QUOTEHEAD">QUOTE</div><div id="QUOTE">Mikey....or anybody else who can chime in on this answer for me.
I have recently started playing Golf....playing a lot of golf at that.
And well I don't know how to change my training around to help my routine.
See there is a couple of things I am good at...I know the basics, and enough science and nutrition to get bigger / bulkier if I need to with no problem!
However I don't know jack squat about TRUE CORE TRAINING or any type of golf fitness.
Do you guys have any suggestion of a good start point?</div>
I agree with bgates all those exercises are awesome for core.
I have taught several people the inch worm or do these and of course the macebell which being a martial artist strengthen my core considerably.
Along with the swiss ball (I know, I know
But that is just me.