Max Stim...

[imported_etothepii]

I registered for the forum there, but I'm waiting on the registration to take effect so I can log in.

In the mean time, here's some questions

On the dead lift, do you set the weight on the floor while you pause, or rack it in the "up" position? If you set it on the floor, do you stand up during the mitime, or remain squatting?

In my current hst cycle, I'm thinking about not doing negatives in weeks 7 and 8, but instead, continuing to increment the load every other workout, and use max-stim to do as many reps as possible. Sound workable?

 

[xahrx]

Set it on the floor, or in other words you just do a full rep which traditionally means going down, pulling it up, easing it down and then standing again without the weight, repeating. A lot of people do technical partials on deads and never let go of the bar. But basically the dead lift is probably one of the easiest movements to incorporate into a MS routine because a chance for M Time comes naturally if you're doing it correctly.

 

[mikeynov]

Based on how most people deadlift, I also see potential disaster in using that lift (particularly conventional) for max-stim.

Sumo would probably work better.

 

[jvroig]

You know, I mght be one of those people who deadlift and cause a potential disaster when applying M Time.

What I do is I finish the movement (you place the barbell down on the floor anyway, right?), then I let go of the barbell, straighten up, breath in and out, then lower myself down to start another rep.

It occured to me I may be close to a potential disaster - can you please tell me what I should avoid? I wouldn't want to just suddenly realize I made I mistake when I tear a bicep or hurt my back too much

Cheers,
-JV

 

[mikeynov]

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(jvroig @ Jul. 10 2006,03:22)</div><div id="QUOTEHEAD">QUOTE</div><div id="QUOTE">You know, I mght be one of those people who deadlift and cause a potential disaster when applying M Time.

What I do is I finish the movement (you place the barbell down on the floor anyway, right?), then I let go of the barbell, straighten up, breath in and out, then lower myself down to start another rep.

It occured to me I may be close to a potential disaster - can you please tell me what I should avoid? I wouldn't want to just suddenly realize I made I mistake when I tear a bicep or hurt my back too much

Cheers,
-JV</div>
I was thinking mostly lower back strain.

All else constant, it's most people's natural tendency to roundback stiff leg a deadlift.

 

[jvroig]

Yeah. I actually had to do deads in front of a mirror to be sure I didn't round my back, when I was just beginning to do deads.

Without the mirror, I'd probably still be rounding my back - it's a little hard to feel it. Sometimes you think you are rounding your back, but then when you look at the mirror you are perfectly straight. Then sometimes you feel you are straight, but when you look, you are a little rounded. It took me a while, but finally got the hang of it.

 

[faz]

keep your head up and shoulders back its almost impossible to round your back..try it.

 

[robefc]

I think most people do deadlifts in a max stim fashion anyway, it's the one lift I don't expect to be able to increase much more than usual using max stim.

I always stood up in between each rep anyway, it's probably more dangerous to not do so and therefore not 'set yourself' properly for each rep.

Mikey - I think the problem you're referring to just relates to deadlifts in general and not specifically to applying max-stim to them.

Faz - it seems impossible when you try it without using weights but then as soon as you bung a heavy weight on it immediately seems to become possible!

 

[xahrx]

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(mikeynov @ Jul. 10 2006,13:36)</div><div id="QUOTEHEAD">QUOTE</div><div id="QUOTE">All else constant, it's most people's natural tendency to roundback stiff leg a deadlift.</div>
Correct. I usually forget that as I lift sumo style all the time. Easier on the knees and back.

 

[jvroig]

Yeah, i think rob's right on the mark there. Come to think of it, deadlifting always kinda looked like it was performed max-stim, except that I wouldn't always stand up and breath for a while. I suppose that's why doing it max-stim style only made me do (don't laught, this is serious) 13 more reps than usual (unlike 20-30+ for most other lifts).

And I thought I was just getting old really fast

 

[faz]

i have never had a problem with deadlifts and i never touch the floor just stop before and straight back up pullshoulders back at the top