Pendelay's

soflsun

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Can these be done effectively with less than 135 lbs?  I don't want to start at 135 for my 15's, but at say 95 lbs the amount of bend will be more severe since the plates (25's) are smaller.  Thanks.
 
I've always bent my knees just a bit more while keeping my back still paralel with the floor. Since I'm kind of short, 5'8", any plates bigger than 25's are a bit uncomfortable to me because it straightens my legs and really stretches my hamstrings.
 
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definitely, my little sister was doing them last night.
 
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(soflsun @ Mar. 21 2008,16:58)</div><div id="QUOTEHEAD">QUOTE</div><div id="QUOTE">Can these be done effectively with less than 135 lbs?  </div>
definitely, my little sister was doing them last night.</div>
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she really was, I wasn't trying to flame soflsun
 
Okay, so you're sister and I are both about the same strength...great to know
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 So the point here is just to make sure the back stays parallel to the floor then?  Either raise the bar with blocks, or just bend more at the knees?  Thanks.
 
my apologies, I did not mean to infer that. seriously. all I'm saying is that she was deloading the weight completely to the floor w/ just a plain bar and no plates. she used good form, w/ a slight arch in the back during the rowing motion.

wish I'd taken a vid. wait, I take that back. no vids of the sister on the internet.

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Yes, reset the bar each rep, upper body parallel to floor, no hip/leg extension. you can bend your knees enough to set the bar down when your arms are straight.

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my opinion is that you should do barbell rows w/ lighter weight &amp; pendlays when the loads get heavier. but that's just me.
 
I'm not going to comment on that picture...

But, I can sadly say that even 95 lbs. was heavy for my first go at 15's after 3+ months off. Plus, I never did Pendelay's before.

I had a problem because I had to bend my knees quite a bit to rest the weight down, but if I stayed in such a crouched position, the bar would have hit my knees on the way up. So I had to extend my legs a bit as I pulled the weight, so I guess that would be considered cheating since my legs were giving some momentum. Oh well, it was heavy for me either way.
 
Oh, and I felt some discomfort in my neck during the exercise. I was looking straight ahead into a mirror, so basically head was up. What is the proper head position so I don't hurt my neck. Thanks.
 
look at 90 degree angle where the floor meets the wall.  or at a point about 5' in front of your feet.  whatever you do, don't look straight ahead in the mirror.  (neck in a neutral position)

I had to sit out the entire month of December because I was doing rows while checking my dumbass out in the mirror.


edit: in fact, absent the cardio bunny and restroom areas, mirrors should not be allowed anywhere in gyms.
 
Yeah, what he said. I do the second option, looking at the floor a bit in front of my feet or even just straight down. Rows are like deads, you can really screw up your neck if you look around.
If you want to check your form for rows (which I assume is why you were looking in the mirror) then your best bet is to video tape it and watch it afterwards. If your form gives credence to the bro slang term of &quot;put it in the butt&quot; rows then you know your form is doing good.
 
Thanks guys...yeah I really looked like I was asking for it
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 I think there was too much leg and hip movement though...I'll work on it.
 
Well you could buy 25lb bumper plates (I bought them for these as well as cleans and snatches - 100$ from wichita falls weightlifting), but the cheapest way would be to get properly sized wood blocks like Quad mentioned. Your neck should be in line with your spine, which means that if you back is parallel with the ground then you are looking straight down.

Ripptoe recommends something similar to a pendlay row. The only difference is that he advocates the use of the hip to start the weight off the ground. The movement is intended to be small (a couple inches max) but it becomes more of a power row than a strict arm row, but I have found out that you end up doing that anyway when the weight gets heavy. It might be good to do a strict pendlay row 15s -&gt;5s and then do more of Ripptoes power row when in the post 5s to add more weight.

Lol PIITB
 
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