Protuding discs in back

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_Simon_

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My parents have similar back conditions, 2 protruding discs in the lower back. Is there anything they can do to stop the pain, or even heal their backs? they tell me it's a lifelong thing that you can't do anything about. Every morning mum's back seizes up and is in pain. It's a lower back/spine thing, not sure if i'm wasting my time.

Anyone know of any sort of exercises or treatment that works?

cheers!
 
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(_Simon_ @ Jun. 17 2008,8:15)</div><div id="QUOTEHEAD">QUOTE</div><div id="QUOTE">My parents have similar back conditions, 2 protruding discs in the lower back. Is there anything they can do to stop the pain, or even heal their backs? they tell me it's a lifelong thing that you can't do anything about. Every morning mum's back seizes up and is in pain. It's a lower back/spine thing, not sure if i'm wasting my time.

Anyone know of any sort of exercises or treatment that works?

cheers!</div>
Molecularly distilled pharmaceutical grade fish oil is worth a shot.
 
Obviously, they will have taken medical advice by now. However, do you really mean two protruding discs? That sounds pretty seriously bad. Or do they have a couple of protruding lumbar spinous processes? I'm pretty sure that's what you mean.

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I ruptured a disc in my lumbar region when I was in my 20s (building site accident). It gave me loads of trouble right up to a few years ago when I started training again. Deadlifting and squatting to strengthen all the spinal erectors and other supporting musculature has helped me hugely as has ageing (vertebral discs tend to toughen up with age and are less prone to rupture). I think Quad has been helped a lot too (can't remember what his problem was though).

However, a ruptured disc and a protruding disc are completely different things and treatment will depend on what is really wrong with your folks' spines.

Hopefully, there will be something they can do to help improve their situations. Having a strong, healthy back is a real asset as you grow older.
 
Generally speaking strengthening the core is a good way to avoid/minimize back pain. The muscles support part of the weight and deviate pressure from the spine. Of course I would not recommend anyone with that kind of problem to start working out without a medical evaluation/approval.
 
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(Lol @ Jun. 17 2008,9:44)</div><div id="QUOTEHEAD">QUOTE</div><div id="QUOTE">However, a ruptured disc and a protruding disc are completely different things and treatment will depend on what is really wrong with your folks' spines.</div>
Yup, I hadda have surgery to repair mine.
 
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(electric @ Jun. 17 2008,9:06)</div><div id="QUOTEHEAD">QUOTE</div><div id="QUOTE">Generally speaking strengthening the core is a good way to avoid/minimize back pain. The muscles support part of the weight and deviate pressure from the spine.</div>
It is strange that so many people with back problems do not completely understand this.

I no several people with back issuses that do no exercise and have huge pot bellies and complain about their backs...
 
That's the new American way allright. It was also interesting reading that powerlifting article again, with the injured guy reporting on it. He went to specialists to see what was wrong with his back and got this:
The Chiropractor said he had a sublaxation.
The Osteopath said he had muscle problems.
The Back Surgeon said he had ruptured discs.
There may have been one other, but all merely looked at their own fields and financial interests. He went back to powerlifting and healed it himself.
Dr. John Sarno: &quot;There are many people walking around with bulging, herniated, slipped discs. They simply aren't feeling pain from them.&quot; He also advocated doing the very exersizes most doctors tell you to quit. Squats and deads are excellent core and back strengtheners. Too bad we can't trust doctors these days.
I rarely hurt anymore after 30 years of a hot knife twisting in my lower back.
 
thanks guys, yeah it's either 1 or 2 protruding discs, yeah i totally agree that a strong core is such a beneficial thing to have as you grow older. I'm not sure if certain exercises like squats or deadlifts would put them in lot of pain as they can't bend much without pain.

cheers!
 
<div></div><div id="QUOTEHEAD">QUOTE</div><div id="QUOTE">That's the new American way allright. It was also interesting reading that powerlifting article again, with the injured guy reporting on it. He went to specialists to see what was wrong with his back and got this:
The Chiropractor said he had a sublaxation.
The Osteopath said he had muscle problems.
The Back Surgeon said he had ruptured discs.
There may have been one other, but all merely looked at their own fields and financial interests. He went back to powerlifting and healed it himself.
Dr. John Sarno: &quot;There are many people walking around with bulging, herniated, slipped discs. They simply aren't feeling pain from them.&quot; He also advocated doing the very exersizes most doctors tell you to quit. Squats and deads are excellent core and back strengtheners. Too bad we can't trust doctors these days.
I rarely hurt anymore after 30 years of a hot knife twisting in my lower back. </div>

wow, that's fascinating it really is, i wonder if they'd do deads/squats if it would help (although they'll both say &quot;nahhhh there's nothing anyone can do bout it&quot;), keeping in mind they haven't really tried much.
 
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(_Simon_ @ Jun. 17 2008,10:07)</div><div id="QUOTEHEAD">QUOTE</div><div id="QUOTE">thanks guys, yeah it's either 1 or 2 protruding discs, yeah i totally agree that a strong core is such a beneficial thing to have as you grow older. I'm not sure if certain exercises like squats or deadlifts would put them in lot of pain as they can't bend much without pain.

cheers!</div>
When does your back bend when you do squats and deadlifts?
 
I'm gonna add that I quit using a belt for squats and deads. I started light and worked up to the 405 I hit last bulk. Lol once posted that anyone doing squats with 500 or something like that and a belt on doesn't have a weak core. I just think the core will develop faster without it.
 
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(electric @ Jun. 17 2008,10:06)</div><div id="QUOTEHEAD">QUOTE</div><div id="QUOTE">Generally speaking strengthening the core is a good way to avoid/minimize back pain. The muscles support part of the weight and deviate pressure from the spine. Of course I would not recommend anyone with that kind of problem to start working out without a medical evaluation/approval.</div>
you could not be more right!

there are some medical conditions which will/can cause severe back problems but its a weak core that is responsible for most back problems.

i learnt this lesson the hard way, 8 months ago my matress had given way and i started to get a stiff lumber in the morning, tons of pills and exercises later when i finally realised it was my mattress, i replaced it asap but the damage was done 2 months of muscle spasm in my lower back had taken its toll my core strength and back were useless. 8 months later and i can only just manage 60kg deads.

fortunately it is only my core muscles that were effected , i was very relieved to find out that my discs were fine. proberbly due to good form over the years.

i use one of those blow-up balls now to help strengthen my core, although deads and squats will take care of that in time.

@quad ,i agree, i dont use a belt for squats or deads as i too believe there is more to be gained from not wearing one. unles i was doing really heavy rows or power lifting i dont see a need to wear one.
 
<div></div><div id="QUOTEHEAD">QUOTE</div><div id="QUOTE">When does your back bend when you do squats and deadlifts? </div>

OH woops, i meant they can't really bend down much in general as in even with the natural lower back arch, they can't sort of maintain that position without pain i think. i'll have to really check what they are capable of first ay ;)\

thanks all!
 
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