watcha guys think of this?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uy2ElkOuNF0
it's the training for 300 the movie
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uy2ElkOuNF0
it's the training for 300 the movie
training for 300 the movie
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imported_fearfactory
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maybe they all got selective liposuction...
QuantumPositron
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Maybe they were just dedicated to their training?
There are some frames in the movie where it almost looks like they are more tan between the ab muscles. Maybe that's CGI, maybe its tanning lotion, maybe its just the way it looks in the lighting. Whatever. They're not sporting beer kegs, are they? Look at the footage of the actors doing scenes on the set with the blue screen in the back. If you have trouble seeing it or simply refuse to believe your eyes than look at the Making of 300 series or just visit http://www.gymjones.com. Those six-packs are real.
As for CNS overtraining, I doubt it. Read the many articles on the website above and I think you'll find the 300 trainers were quite knowledgeable about training.
There are some frames in the movie where it almost looks like they are more tan between the ab muscles. Maybe that's CGI, maybe its tanning lotion, maybe its just the way it looks in the lighting. Whatever. They're not sporting beer kegs, are they? Look at the footage of the actors doing scenes on the set with the blue screen in the back. If you have trouble seeing it or simply refuse to believe your eyes than look at the Making of 300 series or just visit http://www.gymjones.com. Those six-packs are real.
As for CNS overtraining, I doubt it. Read the many articles on the website above and I think you'll find the 300 trainers were quite knowledgeable about training.
Here is a link to the thread where we already discussed this:
The 300 Movie
My opinion is that their training is retarded. You don't need to do all that dumb stuff to get in shape. As I said in the thread I linked to, you see transformations like this all the time using simple weight training, cardio and a calorie deficit. A lot of us have done this many times even, not just once. It isn't that big of a deal. The only reason people are so impressed is because these people were in a movie, so the conditioning looks even better than it would on the street.
The 300 Movie
My opinion is that their training is retarded. You don't need to do all that dumb stuff to get in shape. As I said in the thread I linked to, you see transformations like this all the time using simple weight training, cardio and a calorie deficit. A lot of us have done this many times even, not just once. It isn't that big of a deal. The only reason people are so impressed is because these people were in a movie, so the conditioning looks even better than it would on the street.
the_dark_master
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Ever notice at the mere mention of "300" in a thread & all the insecurities start rearing their ugly heads...
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(the_dark_master @ Nov. 20 2007,07:49)</div><div id="QUOTEHEAD">QUOTE</div><div id="QUOTE">Ever notice at the mere mention of "300" in a thread & all the insecurities start rearing their ugly heads...
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I don't think it is insecurity, I think it is just the fact that every time a major movie comes out, everyone is like "OMGF!!1 I WANT LOOK LIKE THAT, HOW DO IT???!" It gets old after the first seventy-five times you hear this.
Everyone is looking for some special, secret routine that will transform them into movie stars like Brad Pitt, Tom Jane and now Gerard Butler.
But nobody wants to put in the work that it takes to get that way. It doesn't really matter what you do, anyone can get to that level if they just STICK TO THEIR GOALS. It really isn't that hard.
Here are a few pointers to get that lean:
1. Don't give up on your cut after a week or two because you feel like you are shrinking. That is always going to happen. You will look like crap during the beginning and intermediate phases.
2. Get used to being hungry, don't be a pansy about it. If being hungry is really that hard for you to deal with, then you may as well get used to being fatter, because you aren't going to get lean if you can't control your hunger.
3. Be patient. It takes time. Even with drugs, which make things a lot quicker, it still takes time. Don't expect to change overnight. If you need to lose 10 lbs of fat, and you figure you can lose a pound a week, then don't even start worrying about how long it is taking until 10 weeks have gone by.
Hmm... that all seems like common sense to me, but maybe not, since everytime another movie comes out with actors who look half-way decent, everyone seems blown away that these guys managed to get cut up.
(the_dark_master @ Nov. 20 2007,07:49)</div><div id="QUOTEHEAD">QUOTE</div><div id="QUOTE">Ever notice at the mere mention of "300" in a thread & all the insecurities start rearing their ugly heads...
I don't think it is insecurity, I think it is just the fact that every time a major movie comes out, everyone is like "OMGF!!1 I WANT LOOK LIKE THAT, HOW DO IT???!" It gets old after the first seventy-five times you hear this.
Everyone is looking for some special, secret routine that will transform them into movie stars like Brad Pitt, Tom Jane and now Gerard Butler.
But nobody wants to put in the work that it takes to get that way. It doesn't really matter what you do, anyone can get to that level if they just STICK TO THEIR GOALS. It really isn't that hard.
Here are a few pointers to get that lean:
1. Don't give up on your cut after a week or two because you feel like you are shrinking. That is always going to happen. You will look like crap during the beginning and intermediate phases.
2. Get used to being hungry, don't be a pansy about it. If being hungry is really that hard for you to deal with, then you may as well get used to being fatter, because you aren't going to get lean if you can't control your hunger.
3. Be patient. It takes time. Even with drugs, which make things a lot quicker, it still takes time. Don't expect to change overnight. If you need to lose 10 lbs of fat, and you figure you can lose a pound a week, then don't even start worrying about how long it is taking until 10 weeks have gone by.
Hmm... that all seems like common sense to me, but maybe not, since everytime another movie comes out with actors who look half-way decent, everyone seems blown away that these guys managed to get cut up.
coach hale
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I second Totentanz
"Here are a few pointers to get that lean:
1. Don't give up on your cut after a week or two because you feel like you are shrinking. That is always going to happen. You will look like crap during the beginning and intermediate phases." I have seen many people do this. The scale weight decreases and they are afraid they will appear skinny to other people. I have had numerous guys that I was preparing for shows and they were looking great. But the scale weight goes down and the bber decides he is shrinking. Next step he decides to withdraw from the competition.
"2. Get used to being hungry, don't be a pansy about it. If being hungry is really that hard for you to deal with, then you may as well get used to being fatter, because you aren't going to get lean if you can't control your hunger." You will survive. Focus on eating non-cal dense vegs and maybe increasing caffeine consumption (decreases hunger in some)
"3. Be patient. It takes time. Even with drugs, which make things a lot quicker, it still takes time. Don't expect to change overnight. If you need to lose 10 lbs of fat, and you figure you can lose a pound a week, then don't even start worrying about how long it is taking until 10 weeks have gone by." You did not gain that fat overnight you should not expect to lose it overnight so fast.
thanks
Coach Hale
www.maxcondition.com
"Here are a few pointers to get that lean:
1. Don't give up on your cut after a week or two because you feel like you are shrinking. That is always going to happen. You will look like crap during the beginning and intermediate phases." I have seen many people do this. The scale weight decreases and they are afraid they will appear skinny to other people. I have had numerous guys that I was preparing for shows and they were looking great. But the scale weight goes down and the bber decides he is shrinking. Next step he decides to withdraw from the competition.
"2. Get used to being hungry, don't be a pansy about it. If being hungry is really that hard for you to deal with, then you may as well get used to being fatter, because you aren't going to get lean if you can't control your hunger." You will survive. Focus on eating non-cal dense vegs and maybe increasing caffeine consumption (decreases hunger in some)
"3. Be patient. It takes time. Even with drugs, which make things a lot quicker, it still takes time. Don't expect to change overnight. If you need to lose 10 lbs of fat, and you figure you can lose a pound a week, then don't even start worrying about how long it is taking until 10 weeks have gone by." You did not gain that fat overnight you should not expect to lose it overnight so fast.
thanks
Coach Hale
www.maxcondition.com
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imported_fearfactory
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(QuantumPositron @ Nov. 20 2007,02:23)</div><div id="QUOTEHEAD">QUOTE</div><div id="QUOTE">Maybe they were just dedicated to their training?</div>
I would agree w/ that... but I can't help but poke a little fun.
that said, if looking lean was my job...I would absolutely be reasearching what they did in preparation for that film.
(QuantumPositron @ Nov. 20 2007,02:23)</div><div id="QUOTEHEAD">QUOTE</div><div id="QUOTE">Maybe they were just dedicated to their training?</div>
I would agree w/ that... but I can't help but poke a little fun.
that said, if looking lean was my job...I would absolutely be reasearching what they did in preparation for that film.
bluejacket
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interesting debate.......again.
i always seem to chime in on these but that is because i find it interesting. i do see (and feel) both sides of the debate. on the one hand i am personally interested in the training actors use to achieve tangible results. cant always say id agree with it or want to try it but getting actual results can be a rare thing these days and i dont mind reading about what did work.
on the other hand, like totz mentioned, it doesnt take long before public interest and over kill takes over and your sick of hearing about the "300" or "fight club" physique.
i havent checked out the links but if memory serves they (gymjones and actors) only spoke in general terms about the w/os performed and diet followed but the "300 challenge" is what got all the press. this was of course a one time end of training test to see if you had the strength and endurance to complete it. it sounds to me like joe public took this info and deemed it the "300 w/o".... like this is what these guys did everyday for months on end to get in shape.
the bottom line is these guys had a specific diet and specific w/o regimine for a very specific goal. everyone can make up there own mind if they were successful or not but the truth is you should look for your own diet/training plan for your own specific goals.
i always seem to chime in on these but that is because i find it interesting. i do see (and feel) both sides of the debate. on the one hand i am personally interested in the training actors use to achieve tangible results. cant always say id agree with it or want to try it but getting actual results can be a rare thing these days and i dont mind reading about what did work.
on the other hand, like totz mentioned, it doesnt take long before public interest and over kill takes over and your sick of hearing about the "300" or "fight club" physique.
i havent checked out the links but if memory serves they (gymjones and actors) only spoke in general terms about the w/os performed and diet followed but the "300 challenge" is what got all the press. this was of course a one time end of training test to see if you had the strength and endurance to complete it. it sounds to me like joe public took this info and deemed it the "300 w/o".... like this is what these guys did everyday for months on end to get in shape.
the bottom line is these guys had a specific diet and specific w/o regimine for a very specific goal. everyone can make up there own mind if they were successful or not but the truth is you should look for your own diet/training plan for your own specific goals.
