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Very interesting article on t-mag regarding the whole caffiene debate. http://t-mag.com/articles/219caff.html And no, they do not say it is horrible and you should run away from it, and they don't mention any Biotest products in the whole article, so there. :) Timm

I thought the lack of "buzz" was the l-norephedrine instead of ephedrine...I have taken 2 at once with no shakiness... no matter, since MD6 is gone...I guess they got scared from all the anti-ephedrine hype in the news

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (mass maniac @ July 16 2002,12:45)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">1.  I like the original T2 a hell of a lot better but I think T2 Pro is a solid design.  I don't get a buzz at all with MD6,.... but it...

2 questions/comments: 1. Biotest's MD6 and T2 Pro? I find the combo cuts the appetite and carb cravings, and little to no ephedrine buzz. Anyone else? 2. What about the new study showing the negative effects of caffiene on insulin sensitivity? I cut caffiene from my carb intake and I do notice...