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damo, There are basically two different versions of these kinds of fat burners: with or without ephedrine. As far as I'm concerned you might as well take a cup of coffee before working out if it doesn't have ephedrine in it. It'll cost more than it's worth. But that's just me... Anyway - try it...

It will probably help you work with a hightened intensity, but it will probably also help you get rid of calories - which means you'd have to eat just a little more. Try them and see what happens...You probably don't have to worry about them ruining your cycle or anything, but be careful when...

How about fries ? ;) Oh...must be the excellent source of EFAs that makes me crave fries on sunday mornings (or...early afternoon)

You really think so ?

If you read it backwards very fast, it says "HST is good, Bryan is God"...It's true - really!

What ? This thread ? I think it's a sign from above...

Oh, c'mon! Now you triggered my curiousity - and we all know what that did to the cat!

And I was hoping I would be the one that could give subtle hints to everyone else that they should stop bein childish. Guess that'll never happen ;)

I see your five and raise you one!

I just read bout the different delivery mechanisms for test, and found a funny one. With test cream they recommend you cycle application spots as it will get more hair growth. Then, a little further down, it says that some men might want to apply it to the shaft in order to improve sexual...

See where you miss the point ? By being too generalizing you didn't even make room for the fact that this drug is a medicine and some (most) people use it as a treatment. In my case 10 years have gone pretty much to maintain the muscle I had when I was 18. Do you have what it takes to see why...

Hey, I just read some stuff about zinc stopping aromatase from converting too much of testosterone into estrogen. Does anyone have any info on this ?

Steve, This isn't my field, but I was just reading about the whole prostate thing regarding HRT (guess it depends on your dosages, but what I read was very interesting). It seems (I can see if I can find references) that research is implying that enlargement of the prostate can't be linked to...

How nice of you to set the standards ;) I wouldn't go that far, but hey...let's say "they weren't seeing good enough results So...my 10 years of training, thousands of pages of reading, hundreds of hours measuring foods etc etc wasn't good enough ? You know, I'd say you're borderline...

I'm not big on timing, but I like to take mine in a protein shake. I usually add 10-15g in each, depending on how much extra calories I need.

Add fat. :)

Thanks for pointing that out, Restless. I tried to generalize...

It may be that I'm not properly awake yet, but...what you're suggesting sounds more like breaking down muscle tissue by eating like a pig, instead of keeping the hard-earned muscle and make it more sensitive to resistance training.

If you gain muscle, then "yes" you must eat more. Put it like this. If you, at current weight, need to eat x calories to maintain and y to gain weight, then you will at some period in time need y calories to maintain this. If you want to gain even more you have to eat yet more. This...

If you can get an EC(A) stack with ephedrine HCL in it and can handle it, then I'd go for it. For the kind of [insert own swear word here] they sell in Europe and Australia it's not worth it. I got ephedrine HCL from my doc when I was in the army, misread the instructions and took a table spoon...