carbs, proteins and fats intake

[Hammer-Man]

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(Totentanz @ Apr. 05 2006,20:17)</div><div id="QUOTEHEAD">QUOTE</div><div id="QUOTE">Your body isn't ever in fat burning mode really, if you are eating carbs.  It is almost always in carb burning mode, regardless of whether carbs are high or low GI, unless you aren't eating carbs, or limit your carbs quite a lot.  Yeah, it's an oversimplification, but it's foolish to tell people that you will burn fat by eating only complex carbs, when that isn't the truth.  You will only lose fat by having a calorie deficit.</div>
So what you are actually saying is that there are two pathways leading to fat loss:

* having a calorie deficit

* strictly limiting your carbs intake to 20 grams or 40 grams or maybe a bit higher, a diet which was introduced by Dr. Atkins and turned out to be extremely efficient.

For the last couple of weeks or so, I've been trying to apply some &quot;Atkins principles&quot; to my diet.
I lowered carbs, which were relatively high, and added more fats.
In fact I finally had some time today to figure out how many calories are in my new diet, and also how much carbs, proteins and fats it consists, which is approximately 240 grams of carbs, 200 grams protein and 150 grams of fats (no trans fats at all, though) – which means that approximately 30% of the calories come form carbs, 25% from proteins and 45% from fats.

Atkins not only suggests that people limit their carbs intake in order to lose weight, but also in order to maintain their weight once they have reached their goal, and basically he says it is a much healthier diet for life.

I forgot to mention that on training days, I drink pre and post workout shakes, which contain also quite a lot of fast carbs (maltodexterine), so that actually on workout days my carbs intake is much higher (and protein intake is also higher).

Considering Atkins ideas, what do you think the carbs, proteins and fats intake should be like?

My main goal is still bulking, though I'm around 18% body fat, so I will have to cut soon (but not now, now is not a good time for me to cut).

 

[Aaron_F]

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(Hammer-Man @ May 01 2006,07:59)</div><div id="QUOTEHEAD">QUOTE</div><div id="QUOTE">]Your body isn't ever in fat burning mode really, if you are eating carbs.  It is almost always in carb burning mode, regardless of whether carbs are high or low GI, unless you aren't eating carbs, or limit your carbs quite a lot.  </div>
Thats an extreme oversimplification, as the body doesnt really oxidise carbs all the time, it does so following a meal, then switches back. Its also a gradient, rather than one or the other.

 

[Totentanz]

Atkins ideas are questionable... I really don't think maintaining your weight on an atkins style diet is a good idea.

 

[Hammer-Man]

Of course it isn't.

And I also said that I will still be focusing on bulking, at least for the next month or two (though I will have to SD more often and maybe for longer periods, because of the university exams and also because I've just become a father  

...)

Still maybe Atkins has a point and the calories consumption recommendation of 60% carbs, 25% fats and 15% proteins isn't that good, so maybe I should stick to my current diet, which is 30% carbs, 45% fats (no trans fats at all) and 25% proteins.

What do you think?

 

[Hammer-Man]

I just found out that the actual calories consumption in my diet is 36% carbs, 36% fats and 28% proteins on non workout days.
(I swap between the eggwhites and the yoks on the Excell sheet by mistake...)

On workout days the carbs and protein intake is higher (especially the carbs), due to the pre and post workout shakes.