psychedout
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What do you all do in terms of cardio for cutting? What does the literature point to as being most effective?
Cardio for cutting
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psychedout
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I just browsed the FAQ forum, and this was about as much as I could find about cardio:
<div></div><div id="QUOTEHEAD">QUOTE</div><div id="QUOTE">Sunday, Tuesday, Thursday & Saturday are rest days. Light cardio (20-40 min.) may be performed on rest days. Incline treadmill (brisk walk) should be first choice."</div>
This seems to conflict with the opinions of some people who are advocates of HIIT as well as the AM cardio fanatics.
I'm keeping a very open mind to any suggestions presented.
<div></div><div id="QUOTEHEAD">QUOTE</div><div id="QUOTE">Sunday, Tuesday, Thursday & Saturday are rest days. Light cardio (20-40 min.) may be performed on rest days. Incline treadmill (brisk walk) should be first choice."</div>
This seems to conflict with the opinions of some people who are advocates of HIIT as well as the AM cardio fanatics.
I'm keeping a very open mind to any suggestions presented.
psychedout
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Bump.
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(psychedout @ Mar. 02 2006,19:42)</div><div id="QUOTEHEAD">QUOTE</div><div id="QUOTE">I just browsed the FAQ forum, and this was about as much as I could find about cardio:
<div></div><div id="QUOTEHEAD">QUOTE</div><div id="QUOTE">Sunday, Tuesday, Thursday & Saturday are rest days. Light cardio (20-40 min.) may be performed on rest days. Incline treadmill (brisk walk) should be first choice."</div>
This seems to conflict with the opinions of some people who are advocates of HIIT as well as the AM cardio fanatics.
I'm keeping a very open mind to any suggestions presented.</div>
I believe this quote refered not to cutting, but for a bulking cycle
Cardio for cutting is a whole different Ball Game
Yeah HIIT Works for cutting
and find a good Diet plan and follow it religiously
I saw some time back guys were refering to Tabata Protocal Training; don't have personal experience with it though, but all the literature I read seems to make sense thus far
(psychedout @ Mar. 02 2006,19:42)</div><div id="QUOTEHEAD">QUOTE</div><div id="QUOTE">I just browsed the FAQ forum, and this was about as much as I could find about cardio:
<div></div><div id="QUOTEHEAD">QUOTE</div><div id="QUOTE">Sunday, Tuesday, Thursday & Saturday are rest days. Light cardio (20-40 min.) may be performed on rest days. Incline treadmill (brisk walk) should be first choice."</div>
This seems to conflict with the opinions of some people who are advocates of HIIT as well as the AM cardio fanatics.
I'm keeping a very open mind to any suggestions presented.</div>
I believe this quote refered not to cutting, but for a bulking cycle
Cardio for cutting is a whole different Ball Game
Yeah HIIT Works for cutting
I saw some time back guys were refering to Tabata Protocal Training; don't have personal experience with it though, but all the literature I read seems to make sense thus far
psychedout
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And what exactly is the Tabata protocol? I believe the rationale behind the above statement was to not interefere with the recovery of major muscle groups.
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(psychedout @ Mar. 05 2006,12:21)</div><div id="QUOTEHEAD">QUOTE</div><div id="QUOTE">And what exactly is the Tabata protocol? I believe the rationale behind the above statement was to not interefere with the recovery of major muscle groups.</div>
Tabata Protocol is simply the best. I do it ALOT and the results are outasight.
http://www.cbass.com/Sprintendurance.htm
(psychedout @ Mar. 05 2006,12:21)</div><div id="QUOTEHEAD">QUOTE</div><div id="QUOTE">And what exactly is the Tabata protocol? I believe the rationale behind the above statement was to not interefere with the recovery of major muscle groups.</div>
Tabata Protocol is simply the best. I do it ALOT and the results are outasight.
http://www.cbass.com/Sprintendurance.htm
psychedout
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That is interesting to see. I did a HIIT cardio session today on the step gauntlet. I didn't quite do it like that.
I did 3 minutes warming up, then 40 seconds going max speed on the gauntlet, then 40 seconds rest (for a total of 6 intervals) and then 10 minute very slow cool down.
The Tabata protocol seems a little extreme, that's for sure.
I did 3 minutes warming up, then 40 seconds going max speed on the gauntlet, then 40 seconds rest (for a total of 6 intervals) and then 10 minute very slow cool down.
The Tabata protocol seems a little extreme, that's for sure.
psychedout
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Come on guys. Need more people to chime in.
I run on off days.. that's about it. I am cutting right now using a high frequency (8x/week) cycle starting this Monday.
my 4th cycle
my 4th cycle
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(psychedout @ Mar. 05 2006,20:15)</div><div id="QUOTEHEAD">QUOTE</div><div id="QUOTE">That is interesting to see. I did a HIIT cardio session today on the step gauntlet. I didn't quite do it like that.
I did 3 minutes warming up, then 40 seconds going max speed on the gauntlet, then 40 seconds rest (for a total of 6 intervals) and then 10 minute very slow cool down.
The Tabata protocol seems a little extreme, that's for sure.</div>
you can do that on treadmill,crosstrainer,bike,rower,on the road running or cycling...insread of 40 seconds some days try 1min or 2mins fast and slow or try this on a punchbag and step..
bag 2mins
step 2mins
bag 2mins
step 2mins
bag 2mins
step 2mins
bag 2mins
step 2mins
bag 2mins
step 2mins no rest
then 10 mins on treadmill
also agree with piere tabbatta is
(psychedout @ Mar. 05 2006,20:15)</div><div id="QUOTEHEAD">QUOTE</div><div id="QUOTE">That is interesting to see. I did a HIIT cardio session today on the step gauntlet. I didn't quite do it like that.
I did 3 minutes warming up, then 40 seconds going max speed on the gauntlet, then 40 seconds rest (for a total of 6 intervals) and then 10 minute very slow cool down.
The Tabata protocol seems a little extreme, that's for sure.</div>
you can do that on treadmill,crosstrainer,bike,rower,on the road running or cycling...insread of 40 seconds some days try 1min or 2mins fast and slow or try this on a punchbag and step..
bag 2mins
step 2mins
bag 2mins
step 2mins
bag 2mins
step 2mins
bag 2mins
step 2mins
bag 2mins
step 2mins no rest
then 10 mins on treadmill
also agree with piere tabbatta is
tabbatta
Tabata Intervals
In recent months, I have received a steady flow of questions regarding Tabata Intervals. What are they, and how can they help?
I first wrote about Tabata Intervals in the The Underground Guide to Warrior Fitness.
The term “Tabata Interval” originated from a study performed by Dr. Izumi Tabata (and colleagues) at the National Institute of Fitness and Sports in Tokyo, Japan. Below I have provided an abstract from this study. You can also view the abstract online by Clicking Here.
ABSTRACT
Effects of moderate-intensity endurance and high-intensity intermittent training on anaerobic capacity and VO2max.
Tabata I, Nishimura K, Kouzaki M, Hirai Y, Ogita F, Miyachi M, Yamamoto K.
Department of Physiology and Biomechanics, National Institute of Fitness and Sports, Kagoshima Prefecture, Japan.
This study consists of two training experiments using a mechanically braked cycle ergometer. First, the effect of 6 wk of moderate-intensity endurance training (intensity: 70% of maximal oxygen uptake (VO2max), 60 min.d-1, 5 d.wk-1) on the anaerobic capacity (the maximal accumulated oxygen deficit) and VO2max was evaluated. After the training, the anaerobic capacity did not increase significantly (P > 0.10), while VO2max increased from 53 +/- 5 ml.kg-1 min-1 to 58 +/- 3 ml.kg-1.min-1 (P < 0.01) (mean +/- SD). Second, to quantify the effect of high-intensity intermittent training on energy release, seven subjects performed an intermittent training exercise 5 d.wk-1 for 6 wk. The exhaustive intermittent training consisted of seven to eight sets of 20-s exercise at an intensity of about 170% of VO2max with a 10-s rest between each bout. After the training period, VO2max increased by 7 ml.kg-1.min-1, while the anaerobic capacity increased by 28%. In conclusion, this study showed that moderate-intensity aerobic training that improves the maximal aerobic power does not change anaerobic capacity and that adequate high-intensity intermittent training may improve both anaerobic and aerobic energy supplying systems significantly, probably through imposing intensive stimuli on both systems.
Tabata Summary
Tabata Intervals consist of 20 seconds of maximum intensity exercise, followed by 10 seconds of rest. This cycle is repeated 8 times (for a total of 4-minutes). Although Dr. Tabata used a mechanically braked cycle ergometer, you can apply “Tabata Intervals” to several forms of exercise, such as hitting a heavy bag, sprinting, jumping rope, or fast paced bodyweight squats.
Your first reaction might be, “How effective can this protocol really be with just 4 minutes of exercise?”
Let me answer this question for you… VERY EFFECTIVE!
You will be amazed at how intense 4 minutes of exercise will feel. This form of training taxes both the anaerobic and aerobic energy systems. Tabata Intervals are excellent for those athletes who participate in high intensity sports such as boxing, MMA, or wrestling.
After just 6 weeks of testing, Dr. Tabata noted a 28% increase in anaerobic capacity along with a 14% increase in V02Max. The 20 seconds on, 10 seconds off interval system improved both the anaerobic and aerobic energy systems significantly. These results were witnessed by physically fit athletes. Many tests are conducted on deconditioned subjects, which makes the test results more difficult to evaluate. Dr. Tabata's test was much more effective, as it produced a positive response on individuals who were already in shape.
This form of training is also effective for fat loss. Tabata Intervals will raise your body’s metabolic rate long after the exercise session is completed. You will continue to burn fat throughout the day. Recent studies have shown that intense interval training will elevate the rate that your body burns calories by up to 142% more than low-intensity, continuous exercise
As mentioned, you can perform Tabata Intervals with several forms of exercise. The most obvious is sprinting. For example, sprint 20 seconds, and then rest 10 seconds, and continue until you have completed 8 x 20 second sprints. Always begin with a moderate warm-up and cool down session.
A “winter friendly” option can include a variety of exercises. Below I have provided one sample workout.
Tabata Workout Sample
Jump Rope (High Knee jump rope style, sprint in place)
Pushups
Squats
Chinnies
This workout will consist of 4 separate Tabata Intervals, each consisting of 4 minutes. The total workout lasts 16 minutes. You can perform this workout indoors.
Another great Tabata workout can be performed on the heavy bag. Punch non-stop for 20-second intervals, followed by 10 seconds of rest. You will be surprised at the difficulty of this 4-minute heavy bag session.
Give these Tabata Intervals a try. 3-4 days per week is ideal...
Tabata Intervals
In recent months, I have received a steady flow of questions regarding Tabata Intervals. What are they, and how can they help?
I first wrote about Tabata Intervals in the The Underground Guide to Warrior Fitness.
The term “Tabata Interval” originated from a study performed by Dr. Izumi Tabata (and colleagues) at the National Institute of Fitness and Sports in Tokyo, Japan. Below I have provided an abstract from this study. You can also view the abstract online by Clicking Here.
ABSTRACT
Effects of moderate-intensity endurance and high-intensity intermittent training on anaerobic capacity and VO2max.
Tabata I, Nishimura K, Kouzaki M, Hirai Y, Ogita F, Miyachi M, Yamamoto K.
Department of Physiology and Biomechanics, National Institute of Fitness and Sports, Kagoshima Prefecture, Japan.
This study consists of two training experiments using a mechanically braked cycle ergometer. First, the effect of 6 wk of moderate-intensity endurance training (intensity: 70% of maximal oxygen uptake (VO2max), 60 min.d-1, 5 d.wk-1) on the anaerobic capacity (the maximal accumulated oxygen deficit) and VO2max was evaluated. After the training, the anaerobic capacity did not increase significantly (P > 0.10), while VO2max increased from 53 +/- 5 ml.kg-1 min-1 to 58 +/- 3 ml.kg-1.min-1 (P < 0.01) (mean +/- SD). Second, to quantify the effect of high-intensity intermittent training on energy release, seven subjects performed an intermittent training exercise 5 d.wk-1 for 6 wk. The exhaustive intermittent training consisted of seven to eight sets of 20-s exercise at an intensity of about 170% of VO2max with a 10-s rest between each bout. After the training period, VO2max increased by 7 ml.kg-1.min-1, while the anaerobic capacity increased by 28%. In conclusion, this study showed that moderate-intensity aerobic training that improves the maximal aerobic power does not change anaerobic capacity and that adequate high-intensity intermittent training may improve both anaerobic and aerobic energy supplying systems significantly, probably through imposing intensive stimuli on both systems.
Tabata Summary
Tabata Intervals consist of 20 seconds of maximum intensity exercise, followed by 10 seconds of rest. This cycle is repeated 8 times (for a total of 4-minutes). Although Dr. Tabata used a mechanically braked cycle ergometer, you can apply “Tabata Intervals” to several forms of exercise, such as hitting a heavy bag, sprinting, jumping rope, or fast paced bodyweight squats.
Your first reaction might be, “How effective can this protocol really be with just 4 minutes of exercise?”
Let me answer this question for you… VERY EFFECTIVE!
You will be amazed at how intense 4 minutes of exercise will feel. This form of training taxes both the anaerobic and aerobic energy systems. Tabata Intervals are excellent for those athletes who participate in high intensity sports such as boxing, MMA, or wrestling.
After just 6 weeks of testing, Dr. Tabata noted a 28% increase in anaerobic capacity along with a 14% increase in V02Max. The 20 seconds on, 10 seconds off interval system improved both the anaerobic and aerobic energy systems significantly. These results were witnessed by physically fit athletes. Many tests are conducted on deconditioned subjects, which makes the test results more difficult to evaluate. Dr. Tabata's test was much more effective, as it produced a positive response on individuals who were already in shape.
This form of training is also effective for fat loss. Tabata Intervals will raise your body’s metabolic rate long after the exercise session is completed. You will continue to burn fat throughout the day. Recent studies have shown that intense interval training will elevate the rate that your body burns calories by up to 142% more than low-intensity, continuous exercise
As mentioned, you can perform Tabata Intervals with several forms of exercise. The most obvious is sprinting. For example, sprint 20 seconds, and then rest 10 seconds, and continue until you have completed 8 x 20 second sprints. Always begin with a moderate warm-up and cool down session.
A “winter friendly” option can include a variety of exercises. Below I have provided one sample workout.
Tabata Workout Sample
Jump Rope (High Knee jump rope style, sprint in place)
Pushups
Squats
Chinnies
This workout will consist of 4 separate Tabata Intervals, each consisting of 4 minutes. The total workout lasts 16 minutes. You can perform this workout indoors.
Another great Tabata workout can be performed on the heavy bag. Punch non-stop for 20-second intervals, followed by 10 seconds of rest. You will be surprised at the difficulty of this 4-minute heavy bag session.
Give these Tabata Intervals a try. 3-4 days per week is ideal...
Enter the Tabata Method
Tabata is the name of a Japanese researcher who discovered an interesting way to increase both anaerobic and aerobic pathways at the same time. It's one of those strange training programs that seems to fit across disciplines: it's excellent for bicyclists, speed skaters, Olympic lifters, or the person looking to lose fat quickly.
This training method is so simple, yet so incredibly difficult, that athletes tend to try it once, acknowledge its greatness, and then vow to never speak its name again. What is it? It's simple: take one exercise and perform it in the following manner:
1) For twenty seconds, do as many repetitions as possible.
2) Rest for ten seconds
3) Repeat seven more times!
That's it! You're done in four minutes! Oh, and that thing you're trying to brush off your face? That would be the floor.
Eight sets of "as many reps as you can get done," followed with a brief ten second rest— simple and effective. The two best exercise options for the Tabata method are the front squats and the "thruster," which I'll describe in a bit.
It helps to have someone record the reps of each set for you because, well, you won’t remember after you pass out. I use the "lowest rep number" of any of the eight sets as my measurement to compare workout to workout. If you go too heavy, that number might be two. If you go too light, you might find yourself getting around 15 reps or more.
Before we talk about the exercises, let’s take a moment to be perfectly clear about what we're doing. This isn't "eight sets of eight," although the goal of doing eight reps in each of the twenty second clusters is about right. Instead it's "as many reps as I can get in" during the twenty seconds, followed by ten seconds rest.
And by the way, ten seconds is not racking the bar, getting a drink, talking to the cute girl on the bike, looking at the clock, walking back to the bar, chalking up, adjusting the belt, talking to a friend, then doing the next set. Ten second is ten seconds! No cheating!
Tabata Exercises
You need to choose an exercise that uses a large number of muscles. I suggest the front squat. Now, you may argue, why not the back squat? Well, it's hard to dump the bar quickly into the rack with back squats, while with front squats, you can simply fall into it and start your ten second rest.
With something like a military press, you won’t be using enough muscles to allow you to survive in the last minute; you might only get one or two reps with your shoulders on fire. Deadlifts have been tried, but most people get a little worried about injuries doing them Tabata-style.
The front squat might be the single best Tabata lift. Having said that, if you don’t know how to front squat correctly, the Tabata method might teach you to lift better than a thousand coaches. In the four minutes, it's easy to get 64 to 70 reps, which teaches the nervous system better than a PowerPoint presentation.
The bar will be held in the "front" of the body, with the fingers relaxed and the bar resting on the clavicles with the elbows high. Sit down "between the legs." This actually gets easier in the third and fourth minute as you just start to "drop" back through. As you rise back up, you don’t need to lock out the knees; in fact, don’t even think about it. Just get up and go back down.
Weight on the bar? Let’s just say this: a guy with a 465 pound front squat puked with only 95 pounds on the Tabata front squat. Generally, I urge people to go "light," like 65 to 95 pounds the first time. There are those in this world who've gone up to 155 pounds and still got "eights" in the last twenty seconds, but those are very rare people!
The other great Tabata exercise is the "thruster." The thruster is one of the greatest lifts no one has ever heard of in the gym. Take two dumbbells and hold them at shoulder height. Squat down, keeping the dumbbells on the shoulders. As you rise up, press the bells to the overhead lockout position. You can either press as you rise or use the momentum to help "kick" the bells overhead. I find that I do a little bit of both in the four minutes.
Thrusters do things to your heart rate and breathing that I honestly can’t describe. Go light! A 35 pound dumbbell in each hand is a very difficult thruster workout! Check your ego at the door for the first two minutes.
Tabata Tips
You need to be able to see a wall clock with a second hand during your four minutes of fun. Stop at twenty seconds, rack the bar (if you choose the front squat), rest ten seconds, grab the bar and go again. Watching the clock seems to help with the focus.
And remember this: you really shouldn’t consider doing much after the Tabata workout. Your lungs will be going like a locomotive engine. Go ahead and plan anything you like, but don’t be surprised if it just doesn’t happen. I keep the family dog nearby to chase the carrion birds away while I rest on the sidewalk.
The hardest thing about this workout is staying focused for four minutes. Don’t let your hands leave the bar or dumbbells, if you can help it. After you put the bar in the rack during the front squat, stay right there, an inch or two back from the bar, and stare at the second hand of the clock.
If you do thrusters, put the dumbbells on a bench and watch the clock with your hands ready. This little trick of staying with the weight seems to help make those ten seconds seem like, well, not much, really! But at least you don’t have to move much to get the weights again.
I do either Tabata front squats or Tabata thrusters about twice a month. I’m sure someone will comment, "If it's so good, why don’t you do it every day?" Go ahead, try it and report back after the second day.
240 Seconds of Pain
Why should you do this workout? The Tabata program might be the single best "fat burning workout" that I know. It might only be four minutes, but you seem to keep sweating and breathing hard for a long, long time afterwards. Moreover, it seems to teach the body the proper method of squatting far easier than all the instruction in the world.
One other thing: Tabata truly teaches a person the mental focus needed to push past pain and reach his body comp or athletic goals. It'll save you 12,000 bucks, too!
Tabata is the name of a Japanese researcher who discovered an interesting way to increase both anaerobic and aerobic pathways at the same time. It's one of those strange training programs that seems to fit across disciplines: it's excellent for bicyclists, speed skaters, Olympic lifters, or the person looking to lose fat quickly.
This training method is so simple, yet so incredibly difficult, that athletes tend to try it once, acknowledge its greatness, and then vow to never speak its name again. What is it? It's simple: take one exercise and perform it in the following manner:
1) For twenty seconds, do as many repetitions as possible.
2) Rest for ten seconds
3) Repeat seven more times!
That's it! You're done in four minutes! Oh, and that thing you're trying to brush off your face? That would be the floor.
Eight sets of "as many reps as you can get done," followed with a brief ten second rest— simple and effective. The two best exercise options for the Tabata method are the front squats and the "thruster," which I'll describe in a bit.
It helps to have someone record the reps of each set for you because, well, you won’t remember after you pass out. I use the "lowest rep number" of any of the eight sets as my measurement to compare workout to workout. If you go too heavy, that number might be two. If you go too light, you might find yourself getting around 15 reps or more.
Before we talk about the exercises, let’s take a moment to be perfectly clear about what we're doing. This isn't "eight sets of eight," although the goal of doing eight reps in each of the twenty second clusters is about right. Instead it's "as many reps as I can get in" during the twenty seconds, followed by ten seconds rest.
And by the way, ten seconds is not racking the bar, getting a drink, talking to the cute girl on the bike, looking at the clock, walking back to the bar, chalking up, adjusting the belt, talking to a friend, then doing the next set. Ten second is ten seconds! No cheating!
Tabata Exercises
You need to choose an exercise that uses a large number of muscles. I suggest the front squat. Now, you may argue, why not the back squat? Well, it's hard to dump the bar quickly into the rack with back squats, while with front squats, you can simply fall into it and start your ten second rest.
With something like a military press, you won’t be using enough muscles to allow you to survive in the last minute; you might only get one or two reps with your shoulders on fire. Deadlifts have been tried, but most people get a little worried about injuries doing them Tabata-style.
The front squat might be the single best Tabata lift. Having said that, if you don’t know how to front squat correctly, the Tabata method might teach you to lift better than a thousand coaches. In the four minutes, it's easy to get 64 to 70 reps, which teaches the nervous system better than a PowerPoint presentation.
The bar will be held in the "front" of the body, with the fingers relaxed and the bar resting on the clavicles with the elbows high. Sit down "between the legs." This actually gets easier in the third and fourth minute as you just start to "drop" back through. As you rise back up, you don’t need to lock out the knees; in fact, don’t even think about it. Just get up and go back down.
Weight on the bar? Let’s just say this: a guy with a 465 pound front squat puked with only 95 pounds on the Tabata front squat. Generally, I urge people to go "light," like 65 to 95 pounds the first time. There are those in this world who've gone up to 155 pounds and still got "eights" in the last twenty seconds, but those are very rare people!
The other great Tabata exercise is the "thruster." The thruster is one of the greatest lifts no one has ever heard of in the gym. Take two dumbbells and hold them at shoulder height. Squat down, keeping the dumbbells on the shoulders. As you rise up, press the bells to the overhead lockout position. You can either press as you rise or use the momentum to help "kick" the bells overhead. I find that I do a little bit of both in the four minutes.
Thrusters do things to your heart rate and breathing that I honestly can’t describe. Go light! A 35 pound dumbbell in each hand is a very difficult thruster workout! Check your ego at the door for the first two minutes.
Tabata Tips
You need to be able to see a wall clock with a second hand during your four minutes of fun. Stop at twenty seconds, rack the bar (if you choose the front squat), rest ten seconds, grab the bar and go again. Watching the clock seems to help with the focus.
And remember this: you really shouldn’t consider doing much after the Tabata workout. Your lungs will be going like a locomotive engine. Go ahead and plan anything you like, but don’t be surprised if it just doesn’t happen. I keep the family dog nearby to chase the carrion birds away while I rest on the sidewalk.
The hardest thing about this workout is staying focused for four minutes. Don’t let your hands leave the bar or dumbbells, if you can help it. After you put the bar in the rack during the front squat, stay right there, an inch or two back from the bar, and stare at the second hand of the clock.
If you do thrusters, put the dumbbells on a bench and watch the clock with your hands ready. This little trick of staying with the weight seems to help make those ten seconds seem like, well, not much, really! But at least you don’t have to move much to get the weights again.
I do either Tabata front squats or Tabata thrusters about twice a month. I’m sure someone will comment, "If it's so good, why don’t you do it every day?" Go ahead, try it and report back after the second day.
240 Seconds of Pain
Why should you do this workout? The Tabata program might be the single best "fat burning workout" that I know. It might only be four minutes, but you seem to keep sweating and breathing hard for a long, long time afterwards. Moreover, it seems to teach the body the proper method of squatting far easier than all the instruction in the world.
One other thing: Tabata truly teaches a person the mental focus needed to push past pain and reach his body comp or athletic goals. It'll save you 12,000 bucks, too!
I
imported_drpierredebs
Guest
He FAZ, if you didn´t write the Tabata posts, would you be so kind as to post the link for them.
Thanks,
pierre
Thanks,
pierre
I
imported_drpierredebs
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thanx bud!
Tonight I will try the front squat tabata.
I have been doing them only on the bike.
I need a full-body punch and I think the full squat should do it.
Tonight I will try the front squat tabata.
I have been doing them only on the bike.
I need a full-body punch and I think the full squat should do it.
Hammer-Man
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Hammer-Man
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I
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Thanx!