Gain MASSIVE muscle

[Rippt]

Alright,
I know many of you guys have built entire eating plans on the objective of getting HEUUGE. My question is, which diet has worked best for YOU for building muscle WITHOUT getting fat? I've read Oliver Starr's "NO Fat Gain Insulin Program" and for drug-free there is Rob Faigin's NHE Bodybuilder's Eating Plan.
Any other good sources you guys know of? If so I would like to hear them. Thank you.
Rippt

 

[Aaron_F]

By the sounds of it, they are both low carb diets (I know that hte NHE is)

A low carb diet is particularly worthless for a natural lifter to gain decent muscle on.

Gaining muscle without againing fat for a natural is extremely difficult. And in the most part is why a lot of people are small, because they want to 'get big' without gaining fat.

 

[Rippt]

Yeah but,

Physiologically, there's gotta be a way to gain muscle without the addition of adipose tissue (FAT)

 

[DCshores]

I have found cyclical dieting works well for me. I do 7-10 days of extreme low calorie(1000) Atkins followed by 3-4 weeks of low carb(100g), High protein(300g), Mod fat(150g) with a cheat day on Sunday. BTW with the short term Atkins I lose no muscle and typically about 6 pounds of fat.

 

[Aaron_F]

Quote[/b] (Rippt @ Aug. 24 2003,4:58)]Yeah but,
Physiologically, there's gotta be a way to gain muscle without the addition of adipose tissue (FAT)

Physiologically,

take steroids, but even then you will have some growth in adipose mass, because you have to overeat.

naturally, start bulking once very lean, but even then there is still some fat gain.

 

[rb1fit]

Quote[/b] (Rippt @ Aug. 23 2003,9:58)]Yeah but,
Physiologically, there's gotta be a way to gain muscle without the addition of adipose tissue (FAT)

In the beginning, this may be true. You will make phenominal gains no matter what you do. Once you pass this phase though, it starts becoming very difficult at best to add lean tissue. This requires more calories, and by the very definition(more calories), comes a bit of fat. You can limit it some with a clean diet, but you will still gain some. You may want to do what I do, I do a gain/lean phase. I will go 8-10 weeks on a good gain diet, then go 2-4 weeks on a leaning phase. This will help immensely to keep those nasty love handles at bay. Besides, I find it much easier to have to diet only 6 weeks for a contest than 16 weeks!

You could also try a TKD or CKD diet, with the emphasis on a TKD diet. Much better of the 2 for bodybuilding, but still very tough, but they do work.Your gains will come very,very slow though, and maybe not at all. The aforementioned dieting scheme(gain/lean) is the best I have found.

Hope this helps, and good luck.