Instead of counting calories why not measure %

Ruhl

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Instead of counting calories needed for hypertrophy could a good body fat % to be aimed for be recommended?
 
I think he means "why not bulk up until I get 15% without counting calories ?"

Some experienced lifters do it. If you have a consistent way of checking your bodyfat you can try it. But you could also become careless and eat more than you should, in which case you will reach 15% much sooner than you expected, and most of your gains will be fat.
 
Are you saying that at 15% BF and on a "bulking" diet, one would gain mostly fat? Please clarify!
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No, I used "15%" merely as an example. What I mean is that if you are 10% (for example) and you decide to stop bulking when you reach 15%, this can happen in 3 months but it can also happen in 2 weeks. In the second case, you will have obviously gained a lot of fat.

For example, if you are 80kg and 10%, then your lean mass is 72kg and your fat mass is 8kg.

You can be 15% like this:
100kg (85kg lean mass, 15kg fat)

...but this could also happen:
88kg (75kg lean mass, 13kg fat)

In both cases you are around 15%, but in the second case you have gained 3kg muscle and 5kg fat.
 
I meant keep the right ratio of carbs/protein/fat that you would normlly have, but while most people have to raise or lower the total number of calories they take in until they strike a desired balance between muscle and fat gain, you could simply aim to bulk up to a certain % of bodyfat that is best for a bulking phase.

I was wondering what the % bodyfat that is best for bulking is.
 
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Quote[/b] (Ruhl @ May 13 2003,3:16)]I meant keep the right ratio of carbs/protein/fat that you would normlly have, but while most people have to raise or lower the total number of calories they take in until they strike a desired balance between muscle and fat gain, you could simply aim to bulk up to a certain % of bodyfat that is best for a bulking phase.
I was wondering what the % bodyfat that is best for bulking is.
I would just aim for 500000 calories (500C) a day above maintenence. You just have to be positive to bulk. If you go too much over most of it becomes fat.

Eric
 
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Quote[/b] ]jsraaf,Posted on May 12 2003,9:53
Are you saying that at 15% BF and on a "bulking" diet, one would gain mostly fat?
Please clarify!

jsraaf,

I have found this to be true. It seems around 15% BF the ratio of adding
muscle to fat starts to change. it might just be bloat tight pants,
but doesn't feel / look like it. For me this is about a 19mm lower ab measurement :mad:
other dimension being between 7 - 9 mm.

This is about where I am now and will start trimming fat next cycle.

Here is a link from John Berardi

bulk or cut
 
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