Max-Stim questions

Discussion in 'General Training' started by dkm1987, Jun 4, 2008.

  1. abanger

    abanger Member


    How does Max-Stimulation address the erk1/2 pathway?
  2. abanger

    abanger Member

    Exercise Biology

  3. abanger

    abanger Member

    The Four Horsemen

    You mentioned 2 of "The Four Horsemen;" what is your opinion of the other 2, namely Alan Aragon & Martin Berkhan?
  4. dkm1987

    dkm1987 New Member

    They seem knowledgeable enough and I've had brief conversations with both of them some time back.

    As far as the book, I wouldn't hold my breath because collaborative books rarely pan out (too many egos involved, kind of like rock bands).
  5. ZAK1

    ZAK1 New Member

    Is anyone able to email me the Max-Stim spreadsheet that automatically calculates your workloads please?
  6. Totentanz

    Totentanz Super Moderator Staff Member

    I have these on my hard drive, not sure if either one is what you are looking for. I zipped them into one file.

    View attachment max
  7. ZAK1

    ZAK1 New Member

    Thank you Totentanz.
  8. lako62

    lako62 New Member

    Just wondering if anyone is doing max-stim these days? If so, how are they working for you?
  9. Sci

    Sci Well-Known Member

    I do max-stimulation for deadlifts, but for most lifts I prefer myo-reps just because it saves time. I do believe max-stim is an awesome way to gain strength and size. I may even try to train more max-stim style, especially as I go for maximum strength, next time I bulk up.

    I trained max-stim a lot in the past, it is a good method.
  10. lako62

    lako62 New Member

    Thanks Sci. How do you do it? Do you do it all through the 15's, 10's and 5's?
  11. Sci

    Sci Well-Known Member

    I like to use 20 seconds M-time. This proves to be the ideal rest time for me, just enough to recover slightly, while the muscle is still somewhat stressed. I also use this time when I "pause" during myo-reps.

    Myo reps are basically take a set to near failure, then pause and take a few more reps, then pause, etc. similar to Doggcrapp, or "rest-pause", but I think Borge explains how it works better, and also implements the technique better.

    Incidentally, Borge Fagerli (blade), developed myo-reps heavily inspired by Dan Moore's writings, and his "Max-Stimulation" method.

    Anyway, max-stim is typically doing 20 reps with a ~10-30 second pause between reps. You rack the weight and take 10-15 deep breaths, then you do another rep, then rack it, then another. It's hardcore, and although Dan developed this method for hypertrophy, it happens to be one of the best strength training methods I have used.

    As far as progression, you can do it just like vanilla HST, or you can just go from something like 60% of your 1rm and progress each workout until you are using your 3rm. Though in my experience, once you get to the 5rm loads, total reps have to drop to 10-15 max-stim reps. It is amazing how many reps you can do with a heavy load using this method.

    Great for deadlifts, chin-ups, dips, bench, rows, Pulldowns, curls, anything where you can quickly rerack the weight. It is not recommended for squats, too awkward to rerack each rep.

    Give it a try.
  12. Lol

    Lol Super Moderator Staff Member

    It's definitely not as straightforward to do Max-stim squats but it is doable if you have good racking/unracking technique. If you can unrack the bar, take a single step back with each foot, squat and then rerack, you should be ok to do a set of Max-stim squats. Front squats work well too.
  13. Jester

    Jester Well-Known Member

    Make sure to grab a spotter for bench

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