i think for most part we all agree it is impossible to gain muscle whilst having a calorie deficit. but my question is if you are carrying a fair amount of bodyfat (15%+) such as i am (21% roughly at moment) is it in fact possible to aquire muscle gains whilst losing fat down to a point of say 14%? my theory is that your body has access to large amounts of fat to provide energy for increases in muscle tissue! An australian website biologic labs.com.au seems to push this theory strongly, well worth a look at. interested in peoples thoughts and past results.
muscle/strength gains while losing fat
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Peak_Power
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21%! Man you'll lose fat just by working out and being active. Once you start getting below 13-14% you'll start to look "leaner", and losing fat will get progressively harder. You're right you don't have to be as stringent with your calorie surplus because you're body will have amply fat and glycogen stores to help it along. I'd just eat at maintainance, or above if you want to bulk. Eat healthy though.
Great to see you doing some research though, this helps us all and makes you look more intelligent
Of course, you never can tell who's reputable on the net, but if the site's bogus people here will let you know. Got a direct link to the article?
Great to see you doing some research though, this helps us all and makes you look more intelligent
Of course, you never can tell who's reputable on the net, but if the site's bogus people here will let you know. Got a direct link to the article?
nah dont have a direct link, go to the site and click on advice and you'll find quite a few interesting articles on body composition. they basically preaches that strength determines how much muscle you have and food intake determines your bodyweight, with fat making up the difference. ive emailed them quite a few times with questions. take a look and let me no what you think!
my 21% bodyfat is mostly in my midsection as i am a diabetic so tend to accumulate fat there easily cause thats where i inject my insulin. im a definate ectomorph otherwise
my 21% bodyfat is mostly in my midsection as i am a diabetic so tend to accumulate fat there easily cause thats where i inject my insulin. im a definate ectomorph otherwise
Peak_Power
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Err dude I just skim read an article, I'd be wary, he says that only 5% of strength gains can be made neurologically. My understanding is that it is much more than this. He says that small guys who are strong are extremely rare, but I know heaps of them. Sure there is a direct correlation between strength and muscle, but neuromuscular factors are much more important than he gives credit. Look at gymnists, these guys are lean but comparatively small, and they can throw their own body weight around like it was nothing. Same with most professional athletes, their CNS and neuromusclur system are highly efficient and are extremely strong for their size. Also, the article doesn't offer any hard scientific research to back up his claims.
Understandable about the diabetes affecting your weight. I'm not an expert but that may affect things, as insulin is a key anabolic hormone. Not an expert on such matters though.
Understandable about the diabetes affecting your weight. I'm not an expert but that may affect things, as insulin is a key anabolic hormone. Not an expert on such matters though.
Fausto
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I've downloaded some of teh articles for later reading, one that jumped to my attention was on seeking the best training advice.
Funny enough number one on the list was HST and Bryan Haycock, darn there must be a reason for this, right?
This does not however make tham immune to talking and advising B.S. and man, if you are not a mushroom, then you will not absorb it so watch out
I have put these articles in a folders called under observation, as one invariably ends up with a whole lot of BS to sort through which becomes somewhat unmanageable.
As Peak says if there is BS....man we have a BS detector here at HST like no other on earth
Funny enough number one on the list was HST and Bryan Haycock, darn there must be a reason for this, right?
This does not however make tham immune to talking and advising B.S. and man, if you are not a mushroom, then you will not absorb it so watch out
I have put these articles in a folders called under observation, as one invariably ends up with a whole lot of BS to sort through which becomes somewhat unmanageable.
As Peak says if there is BS....man we have a BS detector here at HST like no other on earth