Fogive me the sloopy post, I was beat last night and sleeping, actually, during the write of this thread. Let me edit.... 2on/1off ... OR, if needed ... 2on/1off/2on/2off - upper/lower split. 2 sets per exercise, Reps of 10 & 5, with a progression in load starting at day one. Increases of 10% on large muscle and 5% on small muscles will be used. Each WO will be repeated once (maybe twice) to extend the program. I will be working to subfailure - never failure. The routine lookes as follows: Day 1: Chest, Back, Delts, Traps Day 2: Legs. Arms Day 3: OFF Day 4: Chest, Back, Delts, Traps Day 5: Legs. Arms Day 6: OFF Day 7: Repeat... However, if it looks as though I might be in over my head, I'll take an additional day OFF on sunday; giving me 2 days full rest at the end of each week. Also, I'm using leg/arms day as a sort of specialization day - so long as I can handle it. The number of exercises is optional and adjustable. I simply posted eercises I wish to use. So, one leg/arm day I might use 2 exercises, another day 3 ... it just depends on how I feel. I wanted to leave room to move around within the program. ROUTINE A - Upper: Back: - Pull Ups (Wide Grip) - Pull Downs (Close Grip) - Hammer Strength #1 Chest: - Incline/Flat DB Press - DB Butter Flies - Dips Delts: - DB Press - Lateral Raises - Reverse Flies Traps: - Shurgs - DB Shrugs ROUTINE A - Lower + Arms: Legs: - Reverse Squats - Leg Extensions - Seated Calves Bis: - Incline Curls (Hammer/Curls) - Hammer Strength Preacher - Rope Curls - Reverse Plated Curls Tris: - Hammer Dips - Tri Extension (One Hand/French) - Rope Push Downs - Kick Backs ------------------------------------------------ ROUTINE B - Upper: Back: - Pull Ups (Close Grip) - Pill Downs (Wide Grip) - Hammer Strength #2 Chest: - Incline/Flat BB Press - Hammer Strength Flies - Dips Delts: - Military Press - Side Lateral Raises - BB Raises Traps: - Shurg - DB Shrugs ROUTINE B - Lower + Arms: Legs: - Leg Press - Leg Curls - Seated Calves Bis: - DB Preacher Curls (Hammer/Curls) - Hammer Strength Preacher - Rope Curls - Reverse Easy Bar Curls Tris: - Skulls - Tri Extension (One Hand/French) - Cable Push Downs - Kick Back I also forgot to mention that I'll be using AAS, which should help with voume, during this program. I hope this helps .... Thanks for the replys. What do you think? Still to much?