Ok well maybe I fooled you a bit with the introductory but everyone always post for a critique and I mean everybody including myself. So I thought I would post my routine that has worked wonders in my opinion for everyone to see. I want to say thanks to DKM and JVroig for all there help b/c it is from there advice I was able to develope this a routine around compounds that has worked well. I am posting this only b/c I have been doing HST for a while and I can say I have found for myself that compound routine has been most beneficial as far as time, growth and simplicity. So without further adew...here is the routine for all newbies. Merry Christmas guys!!! Incline Dumbell press on 10 degree incline bench Rows with machine or bent over barbell rows dumbell press or standing barbell press squats Thats it. Like a lot of others I have found that iso help with metabolic work so I will do 1 set of both biceps and triceps with higher reps. And for lagging muscle group which for me has been chest I will throw in some flys to help with isolations and stretch. This routine is very quick and effective. i have also found the standing barbell press is good for ab developement.