Protein and Carbs, inquiry

[QuantumPositron]

Fellahs,

I've been doin' some reading on diet, especially in regards to muscle building or bulking. What I've seen so far recommends the classical high protein intake and reduced carb intake. I'm not a nutritional expert but another source I have states that while increased protein is obviously necessary, increasing carbs is necessary as well. He has a PhD in Exercise Phys, so he's no tool, and his reasoning is simple: Adding muscle increases your BMR because new muscle requires energy too. In fact if we're going to be precise about it we should know how much muscle we can expect to gain per unit time, how much protein that muscle requires, and how much energy it requires. Then just add what is necessary as it is needed.

What do you think? Why?

 

[quadancer]

It's been said that to be a 220lb. BB'er, eat like a 220lb. BB'er. -
Scientific enough for me.
Bulking, being a matter of caloric intake over all other factors, simply breaks down into the PFC ratios afterward, protein being the primary.
I think it really is that simple - Sandow didn't have years of research behind him either. As for how much you'd need as you gain beef, I think that would depend largely on your personal metabolism.

 

[colby2152]

That's (low carb approach) one thing in the diet world that I am against. This is why I won't be testing the waters of ketogenic diets or a PSMF during my road to 10%. Carbs supply that quick energy that you need for exercises whether it be cardio, lifting, or sports. How will the car run efficiently if you don't give it the right fuel?

 

[RUSS]

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(quadancer @ Nov. 09 2007,20:32)</div><div id="QUOTEHEAD">QUOTE</div><div id="QUOTE">It's been said that to be a 220lb. BB'er, eat like a 220lb. BB'er. -
Scientific enough for me.</div>
Amen , that and get your load numbers up by hook or by crook till your 1rms are high enough that the subsequent hypertrophy range rms are enough to be those of a 220 lber and wow! suddenly you ARE a 220 (or 240, or 260 or ) lb monster!

 

[Jazzer]

I did the Anabolic diet and lost over 20 pounds in 3 months. I also think I put on muscle. I'm not big on measuring so I can't back that up with figures but I did Max Stim training and I got stronger on everything. Cheers Dan

I entered a transformation comp at my gym during this time and won it so I'm happy. I won £300 worth of supp &amp; a years free training. I obviously do well on low carbs and never felt short of energy. I experimented with calories and did notice going under 1800 at the lowest caused me to lose strength/muscle so I increased a bit. Carbs were about 30g a day and weekend carbups were pretty clean mostly.
I don't fancy trying the AD for bulking though. That would be a hell of a lot of meat &amp; fat. I'm sticking to 33% P, C &amp; F for that. I've put on 7 pounds since stopping the AD and I don't think I've put on any fat yet. I would definitely do the AD again.
J

 

[bluejacket]

low carb dieting (up or down) is simply a tool.

for someone with poor insulin senst. (an actual real issue discovered thru diet track and exper. not just a guess) you would be foolish not to explore trying to manipulate your carb intake to reach your goals. on the other hand someone with good insuline sensitivity (again, an actual truth) would be foolish to limit carbs (within reason) and thereby possibly limit progress.

if low carb actually works for you then you have another tool to help you better (more efficiently) reach your goals. if not............. then not.

if the only tool you have is a hammer......then everything is a nail.

 

[Morgoth the Dark Enemy]

For building muscle, you sorta kinda need carbs at one point or another...there's no way around it. For cutting, depends on the individual...some are carb-addicted(like me, bread addiction in my case), so low-carbing is a no-brainer. Others fare incredibly poorly with low-carbs, and feeling like dung is hardly conductive to effective cutting cycles so...experimentation is the key.