Thermogenics and diabetes...
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Dear nosferer,
I am assuming it is type II NIDDM. I also am assuming that the thermogenic product is the basic Ephedrine-Caffeine (EC) combination.
The EC combo elicits cathecholamine secretion by the adrenal glands, and this in turn leads to stimulation of beta adrenergic receptors. In essence, an pharmacological fight or flight stress response is elicited by the EC combo and part and parcel of this response is the breakdown of glycogen resulting in glucose entering the blood which may or may not be detrimental to a diabetic depending on sensitivity to cathecholamines and/or glycogen stores.
If you are on a low-carb diet, you should not worry about the glycogenolysis backlash and assuming you have a clean bill of health but for your type II NIDDM (which is caused by obesity and a diet too high in carbs) then, the EC combo should be safe.
Take note though. The clinical application for EC is in correction of adrenal defect. Read www.drumlib.com for good explanation on the how and why of the EC formulation.
To answer your questions in specific:
1. Are there any contra indications to using thermogenic products if one has diabetes type II?
Nope. In fact, if obesity is the cause for the type II diabetes and the obesity is in part or whole due to adrenal defect, EC will work magic for you, depending on the degree of adrenal defect.
2. Would it effect the insulin sensitivity of the cells?
Nope. It will not affect insulin sensitivity of cells in any direct way.
3. Or would it drop the blood sugar levels dangerously low?
It would not promote a decreae in blood sugar levels so hypoglycaemia is not a worry.
Godspeed, and happy HSTing
I am assuming it is type II NIDDM. I also am assuming that the thermogenic product is the basic Ephedrine-Caffeine (EC) combination.
The EC combo elicits cathecholamine secretion by the adrenal glands, and this in turn leads to stimulation of beta adrenergic receptors. In essence, an pharmacological fight or flight stress response is elicited by the EC combo and part and parcel of this response is the breakdown of glycogen resulting in glucose entering the blood which may or may not be detrimental to a diabetic depending on sensitivity to cathecholamines and/or glycogen stores.
If you are on a low-carb diet, you should not worry about the glycogenolysis backlash and assuming you have a clean bill of health but for your type II NIDDM (which is caused by obesity and a diet too high in carbs) then, the EC combo should be safe.
Take note though. The clinical application for EC is in correction of adrenal defect. Read www.drumlib.com for good explanation on the how and why of the EC formulation.
To answer your questions in specific:
1. Are there any contra indications to using thermogenic products if one has diabetes type II?
Nope. In fact, if obesity is the cause for the type II diabetes and the obesity is in part or whole due to adrenal defect, EC will work magic for you, depending on the degree of adrenal defect.
2. Would it effect the insulin sensitivity of the cells?
Nope. It will not affect insulin sensitivity of cells in any direct way.
3. Or would it drop the blood sugar levels dangerously low?
It would not promote a decreae in blood sugar levels so hypoglycaemia is not a worry.
Godspeed, and happy HSTing
