1. Ok so am off the tea(green,white and otherwise) all together and am thinking maybe a old ma's drink reciepe of Honey,Vinegar and lemon juice hot.
    Is vinegar good for glycogen and if so how much and when?
    And is there a particular type of vinegar - like hopefully apple cider vinegar....
  2. ok found this, can someone able to make sense of it tell me how much and when I would be best to take the vinegar.
    ""Acetic acid feeding enhances glycogen repletion in liver and skeletal muscle of rats.

    Fushimi T, Tayama K, Fukaya M, Kitakoshi K, Nakai N, Tsukamoto Y, Sato Y.

    Central Research Institute, Mitsukan Group Company Limited, Handa 475-8585, Japan. [email protected]

    To investigate the efficacy of the ingestion of vinegar in aiding recovery from fatigue, we examined the effect of dietary acetic acid, the main component of vinegar, on glycogen repletion in rats. Rats were allowed access to a commercial diet twice daily for 6 d. After 15 h of food deprivation, they were either killed immediately or given 2 g of a diet containing 0 (control), 0.1, 0.2 or 0.4 g acetic acid/100 g diet for 2 h. The 0.2 g acetic acid group had significantly greater liver and gastrocnemius muscle glycogen concentration than the control group (P < 0.05). The concentrations of citrate in this group in both the liver and skeletal muscles were >1.3-fold greater than in the control group (P > 0.1). In liver, the concentration of xylulose-5-phosphate in the control group was significantly higher than in the 0.2 and 0.4 g acetic acid groups (P < 0.01). In gastrocnemius muscle, the concentration of glucose-6-phosphate in the control group was significantly lower and the ratio of fructose-1,6-bisphosphate/fructose-6-phosphate was significantly higher than in the 0.2 g acetic acid group (P < 0.05). This ratio in the soleus muscle of the acetic acid fed groups was <0.8-fold that of the control group (P > 0.1). In liver, acetic acid may activate gluconeogenesis and inactivate glycolysis through inactivation of fructose-2,6-bisphosphate synthesis due to suppression of xylulose-5-phosphate accumulation. In skeletal muscle, acetic acid may inhibit glycolysis by suppression of phosphofructokinase-1 activity. We conclude that a diet containing acetic acid may enhance glycogen repletion in liver and skeletal muscle.

    Effect of acetate on glycogen replenishment in liver and skeletal muscles after exhaustive swimming in rats.

    Nakao C, Yamada E, Fukaya M, Tayama K, Tsukamoto Y, Sato Y.

    Department of Sports Medicine, Graduate School of Medicine, Nagoya University, Japan.

    Immediately after exhaustive swimming, rats were given one of the following orally: distilled water (W), glucose (G); acetic acid (A); citric acid ©; glucose and acetic acid (GA); and glucose and citric acid (GC), and they were killed 2 h after ingestion (each trial: n=4). Exhaustive exercise resulted in a significant reduction of the glycogen store in the gastrocnemius muscle. The glycogen stores in the liver were significantly higher following ingestion in groups GA and GC, in the gastrocnemius in groups G, GA and GC, and in the soleus in group GC, than immediately post exercise. These results suggest that oral acetic acid with glucose can facilitate liver glycogen restoration during the early period of recovery, and that acetate has about the same physiological effects as citrate on glycogen replenishment.
  3. Steve McDermott

    Steve McDermott New Member

    Here is a long thread on Vinegar use.

  4. Thanks Steve, Am going to try some after morning w/o with a carbie lunch and see if I notice any effect - hopefully be better then drinking green tea anyhows. :D

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