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(Slapshotz @ Apr. 07 2007,09:08)</div><div id="QUOTEHEAD">QUOTE</div><div id="QUOTE"> <div></div><div id="QUOTEHEAD">QUOTE</div><div id="QUOTE">Prohormones and steroids are the same thing. All your sex hormones get converted back and forth to different versions with varying degrees of anabolic androgenic effects. The different label if for marketing/legal reasons alone. Steroids are prohormones, prohormones are steroids, and taken in doses that deliver the same effects will deliver the same risk of side effects including gyno. The difference more often than not was the allowed delivery system. The products marketed as prohormones technically were illegal to methylate or make in injectable form. Some companies still made them in those forms regardless.</div>
Wow....never knew that. Guess I got really lucky, then, since I had no sides at the time (acne, gyno, etc.). Long term risks? $hit, who knows what they might be, and to this day I regret my choice of doing them in the first place, but that's water under the bridge.</div>
No one really knows the long term risks since there are no long term studies. Orals especially should be avoided as far as consistent use goes. However even other delivery methods will affect your lipids and blood pressure. And carrying around a lot of extra weight, be it muscle or fat, for a long time is unhealthy.
Bottom line is if your fitness goals are reasonable you really don't need them, so why bother? I take multi vits, fish oil, and a couple things for my knees and sleep. Beyond that I see no need for anything else anymore.
Of course if 1 testosterone powder were still available, I'd buy a boatload, seal it and stick it in the fridge. Just in case.
(Slapshotz @ Apr. 07 2007,09:08)</div><div id="QUOTEHEAD">QUOTE</div><div id="QUOTE"> <div></div><div id="QUOTEHEAD">QUOTE</div><div id="QUOTE">Prohormones and steroids are the same thing. All your sex hormones get converted back and forth to different versions with varying degrees of anabolic androgenic effects. The different label if for marketing/legal reasons alone. Steroids are prohormones, prohormones are steroids, and taken in doses that deliver the same effects will deliver the same risk of side effects including gyno. The difference more often than not was the allowed delivery system. The products marketed as prohormones technically were illegal to methylate or make in injectable form. Some companies still made them in those forms regardless.</div>
Wow....never knew that. Guess I got really lucky, then, since I had no sides at the time (acne, gyno, etc.). Long term risks? $hit, who knows what they might be, and to this day I regret my choice of doing them in the first place, but that's water under the bridge.</div>
No one really knows the long term risks since there are no long term studies. Orals especially should be avoided as far as consistent use goes. However even other delivery methods will affect your lipids and blood pressure. And carrying around a lot of extra weight, be it muscle or fat, for a long time is unhealthy.
Bottom line is if your fitness goals are reasonable you really don't need them, so why bother? I take multi vits, fish oil, and a couple things for my knees and sleep. Beyond that I see no need for anything else anymore.
Of course if 1 testosterone powder were still available, I'd buy a boatload, seal it and stick it in the fridge. Just in case.