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this is a good question, and one that i am eager to find the answer to!

ah ok - makes sense.

thanks man - that gives some perspective - not sure if rolled oats fall into the unprocessed category.

According to fitday, oats have 26 grams of protein per cup (13 if they're raw apparently) and almonds have over 30 grams per cup. Not sure if that qualifies as trace amounts!

bought some oats today from the organics store - they're rolled they look like this: Fitday has a listing for "oats" and "oats, raw" and then a bunch of stuff that is irrelevant like various brand name stuff that's mixed in with other stuff. Fitday lists oats as having...

well i went and purchased some olive oil after reading ectoman's lovely recipe and i am totally in love with the snack. I bought extra virgin cold pressed stuff (spectrum naturals brand) and man is it good. Didn't realize how calorie dense tho! - 15 ml = 120 calories!! - and i eat about 6...

Sweet iguanas on gravy that sounds incredible...

Well enig isn't alone in her analysis. But you're right, coconut oil alone isn't a good idea. I've decided to use olive oil instead (i already have coconut oil at night and morning for frying). Cheaper too for olive oil - just gotta find a good source of olive oil that is actually pure (and not...

From what I understand, coconut oil isn't to be lumped in with the rest of the saturated fats. Here's a perspective: http://www.westonaprice.org/know_your_fats/coconut_oil.html

tx for the replies so far I think i'll stock up on oats to comprise the bulk of the calories - wanna avoid sugary stuff as much as possible i think. 100 grams of oats 2 table spoons of honey one banana 2 table spoons of organic almond or peanut butter 2 table spoons of coconut oil scoop or 2...

thanks man - didn't realize oats had so many cals! Honey, banana, and peanut/almond butter might help too i guess. I might replace the olive oil with virgin coconut oil (i have some really good stuff that i use for frying potatoes) Wow - i think i will start this weekend - i might not even...

Look - I realize that surplus calories make you fat - when I ate completely natural solid food I still had a gut, although I had it at a higher weight than i have it now. As I stated clearly in my original post,

I got all my calories (close to 4000) from solid food for 2 years before i supplemented with shakes. I still eat 3 solid meals a day on top of the shakes. besides, with homemade shakes, I would be using natural and healthy unprocessed unrefined ingredients. I also love honey, so i could use...

I've been using Mammoth 2500 for a few months now, and I don't like the way my gut has been growing. I'm not sure if it's the MRP itself, or just the amount of calories... but either way I think it's more economical to go to a home made shake. The mammoth 2500 has a boatload of calories (1250...

thanks manic:)

When it comes to calories, I need to eat about 25 cals per pound of bodyweight in order to grow. This is much more than most people, and it's because I started out very skinny and have put on about 40 pounds since. I have a high metabolism, and need more calories to create the anabolic...

Thank you SO much daniel! there's even a chart that shows the cost per 100 calories! btw ppl keep calling me xeno, but that's just my clan tag - call me julz for short or my real name -marwan

ugh never mind, bought it, and just before opening it, i realized it's actually 148 calories (619 kiloJOULES) bad printing error - got a refund. Having a tough time looking for calorie dense supplements. At the moment, i'm paying $4.50 canadian for 2l of lactose free milk and each 2litres...

So i finally went shopping for a meal replacement, and the densest source of calories i could find was this product. I can't seem to find anything about it online. It's called Ultimate Nutrition Max Fuel: it comes in a 908 gram tub, and for each 45.4 grams, there are 619 calories and 4.5 grams...

http://www-med.stanford.edu/school/Psychiatry/narcolepsy/ I don't know much about narcolepsy, but might be related.