I must be one of those guys who carries bodyfat very well. People generally think I am lower bodyfat than I am. Alot of me looks 'defined' but I know I just have fat well-distributed everywhere. And a bunch on hips/belly/thighs/back. I cut down to 186 last time and stopped due to fear of shrinking too much, although I did not have the 6-pack look. I have gained mass since then and am cutting down this time until my waist is 33" and/or I get the 6-pack look. Now I know I will have to go lower than that (186) to reach my goal, and then I can maintain/slowly put on lean mass, without getting flabby. (based on the partitioning ratio idea= leaner people gain more lean mass/ fatter people gain more fat mass generally) This seems to be very common among amateur bodybuilders...OVERestimating leaness. Alot of guys seem to think they are under 15% based on appearance, but in reality they have a significant bodyfat level. I have never been lean enough to actually have really defined abs and I am really curious to see how much fat loss it will take in reality. Any comments welcome.