LBM V/S Fat Gains

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MasterCFI

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Here's a question.

During your bulking season, how much fat should I expect to gain while bulking?

My wife is a retired professional bodybuilder, personal trainer, and using the Bioanalogics Impedance computer system for her clients.

Well, she has been using it on me in the past 4 months or so. To compare my gains to the "norms", I'd like to know what happens to anyone else out there - that knows their LBM versus fat gains/losses averages.

In other words, how much fat are you gaining per pound of muscle?

Thanks...
 
most of what you gain (muscle or fat) is determined by your partitioning ratio (p-ratio). you can control about 15-20% of your p-ratio with training and diet but the rest is mostly genetic and therefore out of your control.

by looking at your signature your done some serious lifting in the past so youve prob. got a good idea of what your ratio is like. of course as we age (past the 40s-50s) the ability to gain lbm while bulking will slow but not the ability to gain fat. crazy bulking (say 2-3lbs a week consistantly) will also lead to huge fat gains as you can only put on so much muscle in a week, no matter how much you eat/train.

from what ive seen/exper. a 1 to 1 ratio is probably a little better then avg. this means that most folks are gaining a little more fat then muscle when just eating surplus (but not crazy) and training hard. a little more attn to detail in diet/training for folks even with poor ratios can move them pretty close to 1/1 but all that doesnt really matter. your ratio is all yours and nothing you can do to change it.......only improve it somewhat.

anyway, good luck with the the bulk. just keep track of your gains as you go and dont try to gain too much too soon or youll likely be disappointed with the fat gain.

btw.....where did you train in delaware.
 
bluejacket

Thanks for the reply. I am "about" 50 and hate the slower gains! However, I'm not doing bad. I came from the powerlifter mentality, then missed many years of weight training (was doing other training), and am now interested in gaining muscle. Found HST while researching the internet for the "latest training information", since I'd been out of the loop for awhile.

I gained about 3.5 LBS muscle and less than 1LB fat during my first HST cycle - which lasted about 5 weeks due to an injury. I am now 5 weeks into my 2nd cycle and am doing about a 1-1 gain. All of this is according to my wife's bioanalogics impedance program. She is a retired professional bodybuilder - drugfree.

I trained in Seaford at the Diamond State Healthclub, and in Dover at Burkes Gym.

Is your bluejacket name
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related to the Bluehens???
 
tim

welcome to the forums. it sounds like your doing well and, imo, fall into the better then avg. cat. when it comes to p-ratio. folks with a decent background in lifting seem to have nice gains when 1st getting back into it (know what and how to lift and perhaps some muscle memory) and now on your 2nd cycle things are averaging out to what your more "normal" ratio would be. again, a 1 to 1 ratio is pretty good in my book and it certainly seems you know what your doing with training/diet.

as long as you go about it the right way you can def. hold onto most of your muscle gains and lose a good bit of fat when (if) you reach that point when your too large (fat). no real way i know of (other then drugs) to gain appreciable amounts of muscle without some fat coming along with it.

as far as delaware is concerned. i was born and raised in newark and i am a U of D grad(91). i moved out to colorado in 99 but its always nice to see fellow 1st staters out there......arent that many of us. did you happen to know a guy named dan hall from down around seaford back in the mid-late 80s? he would be about 10yrs younger then you but perhaps the only lifter i knew of from down around your way. as far as bluejacket goes, thats more of a tip of the hat to the white settler turned shawnee war chief who has always facinated me.
 
That name doesn't ring a bell. However, Mike Hall does. Remember him? I was on his powerlifting team. He was the world's strongest natural man.

I also left Delaware around 1997.

How long have you been doing HST? What have your gains been like? When are you too fat? Ha Like I mentioned, I have my wife run the BIO progam on me. How does everyone else determine their LBM/fat without that???

Tim
 
i remember the name, mike hall, but i wasnt as into lifting back then. i ran x-c and track at the UofD and didnt really get into lifting until after college... trying to cure my running induced skinny-ness. well that was 16+ yrs ago and in many ways im still working on it. i spent yrs doing the tradit. HIT grind (which almost everyone was doing then) and just trying to eat big. around 2000 i decided to get smarter with diet and w/o and found HST shortly thereafter. ive been up and down a few times since then but HST has really helped me stay healthy physically and mentally as well as get stronger. honestly, my old approach had me burning out (phys and mental) in a much shorter time frame which of course limits strength gains as well.

as far as bf goes, ive tested myself with calipers as well as been tested by others over the yrs. over time you get a good idea of what a certain % looks like and i just go with that unless im really lean (not often). in the end it doesnt matter too much (just a number) unless your really trying to chart your progress (which it sounds like you are).

good luck
 
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