Milk Vs Skim Milk Absorption Postworkout

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_Simon_

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Hey guys, just had a curious thought..

Postworkout I drink about 400ml full cream milk with chocolate topping mixed in. Would it be more beneficial do you think to switch to skim milk for the purposes of postworkout consumption?

As there is lower fat (or close to zero) in skim, would absorption be much faster than using skim post w/o?

Of course I'd be sacrificing the calories from switching off full cream, but just wondering if absorption would be faster using skim, or does it really just not matter that tremendously postworkout haha? (If I really cared a great deal I'd use whey anyway, but I'm happy with milk and choc ;) ).

Just a curiosity :)
 
I personally would go to semi or skimmed milk and make up the calories with carbs, carbs are far more beneficial post workout than fats
 
Yeah that's what I was thinking hey, fats postworkout doesn't make sense. I could always double the choc topping haha. Just unsure overall if it would make a big difference in the grand scheme of things, but it makes sense to have no fats post w/o.
 
This isn’t necessarily true. In this study, whole milk outperformed skim milk - even at equivalent calories, which means that the protein content of the skim milk group was higher - but the whole milk group still grew more muscle:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16679981

There is most likely a synergistic benefit to including the fats in a milk protein to get the maximum benefits, and this phenomenon has also been shown to be true when it comes to health effects:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/26912496
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4928633/
 
Blade said:
This isn’t necessarily true. In this study, whole milk outperformed skim milk - even at equivalent calories, which means that the protein content of the skim milk group was higher - but the whole milk group still grew more muscle:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16679981

There is most likely a synergistic benefit to including the fats in a milk protein to get the maximum benefits, and this phenomenon has also been shown to be true when it comes to health effects:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/26912496
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4928633/
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Ah wow, that's fascinating, thanks for that Borge. That is utterly baffling to me haha, but yeah like you said it must have something to do with the synergistic effect of fats with the protein, and maybe something unique within dairy perhaps? As that seems at odds with alot of recommendations to keep fats low postworkout.

Perhaps it's something within the filtration into fat-free milk that does something funky to the proteins and how cohesive and interactive their bond structure is (and affects how it's absorbed)... Just theorising haha.
 
Alan Aragon did a review on the post-workout fat issue a while ago, and found that it had no detrimental effect whatsoever. Why should it? Slowing down the insulin surge makes no difference, as insulin is only permissive - not anabolic per se. Slowing down the amino acid release makes no difference either, as numerous studies have shown that protein absorption kinetics is irrelevant for long-term muscle growth - i.e. even if the acute rise from whey or free-form amino acids may stimulate MPS more acutely, slower protein sources keep MPS elevated and prevents MPB for longer, so net protein balance may actually be better if you eat regular meals.
 
Blade said:
Alan Aragon did a review on the post-workout fat issue a while ago, and found that it had no detrimental effect whatsoever. Why should it? Slowing down the insulin surge makes no difference, as insulin is only permissive - not anabolic per se. Slowing down the amino acid release makes no difference either, as numerous studies have shown that protein absorption kinetics is irrelevant for long-term muscle growth - i.e. even if the acute rise from whey or free-form amino acids may stimulate MPS more acutely, slower protein sources keep MPS elevated and prevents MPB for longer, so net protein balance may actually be better if you eat regular meals.
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Ah yep that makes sense, always wondered about the acute effects of postworkout nutrition and whether it was so do-or-die that many proclaim, I'd seen studies go both ways, guess I ain't up to date with it all hehe. Obviously supplement companies can have quite a stake in it, promoting quick-acting protein powders etc.

So it's essentially recommended, but not make or break, gotcha :).

Full cream milk I shall stick with!

(Thanks for clearing that up mate appreciate it)
 
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