When does increased-frequency become overtraining?

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OneMoreRep

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Any thoughts?

is it an individual thing?

I was going to increase Freq. and Volume until i noticed things like excessive soreness, drops in strength, lack of modivation, problems sleeping, sore joints etc...

sound ok?

Currently i am training 6 days a week with 48 sets a week.
 
right now i am having no problems i am not sore at all.. i probably worded it wrong..

i was saying i was going to increase until the volume until i see those kind of problems.. i don't have any of them yet.
 
I was doing 7 sets twice per day, 5 days per week and found it to be too much. ( I was working each body part twice per day). More from a mental standpoint than a physical one. I started wanting to skip workouts. I have cut back now to 4 sets twice per day 5 times per week and no problems. (Still working each bodypart twice per day). I am thinking now of increasing it to 6 times per week.
 
O&G, how do you like the super-frequent training? How do you notice your body responding to it?

cheers,
Jules
 
my arms/legs feel fuller all the time. and the pumps after the workout are amazing.

i was just ceoncerned with how to now when you are past ideal growth..

would it just be the regular over training symptoms?
 
Jules, it's tough bro. A lot tougher than I thought. I like the cut down version. It's not a system to be bulking on though; no matter on how much you fill your pie hole with food, it jus ain't enough.

One, I usually back off when I feel a little mental stalenss coming on. That is usually the precursor to me working out too much. If I back off then, I will be OK.
 
The first thing to change from a standard HST is going from 3x to 5/6x a week in my opinion.

The next thing I tried was to increase the volume on the compound exercises, and this worked. I don't think on a 6x per week basis that the bis, tris or individual delts need 2 sets of isolation plus there involvment in compounds to grow.

And my current variable is using drop sets in the 5s, works a charm so far - makes the 5s feel like 15s just about
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You could eventualy decrease your density insteed of volume and frequency.

What I'm doing now is 20 singles per lift EVERYDAY at 80-85%. Density is low I take 1min to several minutes between reps. I want the least amount of fatigue possible.
 
I scale my frequency to how much rest and nutrition i'm getting.  I can kinda tell when i'm pushing it too far, there's a number of symptoms I get:  I can't sleep, dogging it during workouts, high body tempurature and sweating long after the workout is finished, and insomnia.
I tune my frequency depending on how bad or how many of these symptoms I have.  I lift 5 times a week, 3 upper body workouts, and 2 lower body workouts.  I might drop a high-toll exercise for a lower toll one (such as leg presses instead of squats) or just throw out a workout and take an additional day off for recuperation.  
I've found I can tolerate a whole lot of frequency as long as I eat and sleep well.  It's a subjective method, but is working well for me.
 
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Quote[/b] (Jester @ Mar. 18 2005,7:49)]Actarus:
What sort of time does that take in the gym?
Do you superset the singles somehow?
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His idea is interesting..

Think about it.. if it takes 3-4 minutes to recover from a regular set of say 8 reps, we can speculate that it might take about 30 sec to recover from 1 rep, especially the first one which is the easiest.

So doing 1 rep at a time might not take longer than doing all of them at the same time.

And of course it is possible to do supersets.
 
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