Bodybuilders need LESS than 1g/lb according to this article. What's you take?

[BPM]

http://bayesianbodybuilding.com/the-myth-of-1glb-optimal-protein-intake-for-bodybuilders/


Interesting article I came across. Seems legit, what do you think?

Some noteworthy quotes:


"As you progress in your training, the body becomes more efficient at stopping the breakdown of protein resulting from training. Since less protein now needs to be replenished, this increase in nitrogen retention means less protein is subsequently needed for optimal growth."

"Secondly, the more advanced you are, the less protein synthesis increases after training. As you become more muscular and you get closer to your genetic limit, less muscle is built after training. This is very intuitive. The slower you can build muscle, the less protein is needed for optimal growth."

"As such, there is simply no empirically substantiated reason to think we need more than 0.82g/lb of protein per day when cutting. If anything, you could reason the body should be able to use more protein during bulking periods, because more muscle is being built and a lot of other nutrients are ingested that may enable more protein to be used."

 

[Totentanz]

Here is a similar article by someone smarter.

http://borgefagerli.com/the-final-word-on-protein/

The idea that you need less protein during a cut is extremely retarded. More protein on a cut for a variety of reasons.

 

[Sci]

Actually Totentanz, Borge's recommendations in that article are not very far from the other linked article.
Borge recommends around .8 grams/pound of bodyweight of protein normally, but he does recommend bumping it up to around 1 gram/pound when cutting.

I find Lyle's protein recommendations to be way high, I heave had good results cutting without going overboard with protein, and even Borge admits in the article you linked that he used to recommend higher, but now has scaled back his recommendations due to recent research that we don't really need as much protein as previously assumed.

 

[Totentanz]

Actually Totentanz, Borge's recommendations in that article are not very far from the other linked article.
Borge recommends around .8 grams/pound of bodyweight of protein normally, but he does recommend bumping it up to around 1 gram/pound when cutting.

Exactly my point. Only an idiot would read that research and conclude that one should cut protein back significantly when cutting. Borge had a much better analysis of the findings than the first author.

 

[manimal]

Practical recommendations, based on the above research and my opinion and experience:

25-40g of whole food protein per meal x 3-4 meals per day

That was my favorite part