Finished First Cycle. Doing Too Much ?

Discussion in 'Hypertrophy-Specific Training (HST)' started by robthebeast, Aug 9, 2018 at 7:06 PM.

  1. robthebeast

    robthebeast New Member

    Tomorow will be the last day of my first HsT cycle. Was wondering if i could get some advice on maybe condensing this routine. Im in the gym way too long and its exhausting me. I didnt gain any weight these 6 weeks so i increased calories this past week. Ppl have commented telling me i look bigger but i dont see it. Anyways heres what i typically do in the gym:

    Incline bench
    Lat pull
    Overhead press machine
    Close grip bench
    Rear delt fly
    Leg curl
    Dumbell bicep curl
    Ab machine
    Lat raises
    Reverse ez bar curl
    Barbell wrist curl

    Should i drop any of these or make some sort of other change? Just feels im in gym too long and sometimes if i dont finish ill go the next day and i end up being in the gym all week.
    Last edited: Aug 9, 2018 at 7:20 PM
  2. Luke matthews

    Luke matthews New Member

    Dude. Waaaaaay too many excercises. Not sure of your lifting age/experience but nonetheless, search this forum for “simplify and win” post and give it a good read. Then enjoy the results.
  3. _Simon_

    _Simon_ Active Member

    Yeah far too many exercises... and that's definitely a sign if you're exhausted!

    So to me:
    -No point doing Incline bench if you're doing Bench (or vice versa)
    -same with Row and Lat Pull
    -same with Closegrip bench and Skullcrusher
    -same with db curl and reverse curl
    -wrist curls are your call, I never do stuff like that as wrist flexors get alot of work on pretty much most upper body exercises. Mine have actually because quite inflexible as a result)

    Feels like you're trying to cover every single base and not miss anything out, but alot of repeated exercises already hit the same muscle group. And a major part of HST is frequency, so in order to have a higher frequency you can't do too much in the one session. The volume is spread out over the week. If your frequency was lower (2 times a week), then you could split it up and do more exercises/volume per muscle group.

    You could even do an ABA setup and alternate those exercises each workout, a popular option.

    So I reckon:

    Bench/Incline bench
    Row/Lat pull
    Overhead press machine/Lat raises
    Close grip bench/Skullcrusher
    Rear delt fly
    Leg curl
    Dumbell bicep curl/Reverse ez bar curl

    (Only if you have time/energy:
    Ab machine
    Barbell wrist curl)

    You could pick either option as the main exercise you run, or do them ABA (alternate them). Some here would simplify even further too!

    But the main go is to really hone in and focus on what HST is about: frequent loading, progressing load. I've tried doing too much 3 times a week and it's just exhausting... especially because you're constantly progressing the load each and every workout, it takes its toll, and makes sense to keep it simpler. Working hard and nailing those fewer exercises with a good frequency, and progressing the load at a volume that's manageable.

    Good to hear from ya dude!

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