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Unfortunately, the start of my next cycle is going to be delayed and I'm not going to be able to dead or squat for a while either. The results from my recent minor op show that I have my skin cancer back again. I am having full body and head CT scans and blood tests this week and then I have another op next Monday (6th August). This surgery (requiring the removal of a reasonable chunk of flesh) will be a lot more invasive than the last one and will leave me unable to bend over for at least a couple of weeks. I am not looking forward to it but I've been there before and hopefully the CT scans won't show up any other suspect areas.
The plus is that my forearm injury will get a bit longer to heal. I just hope it's not too uncomfortable to sit or I'll have to skip using my Mac and visiting the forum for a while. Now that would be a blow.
The plus is that my forearm injury will get a bit longer to heal. I just hope it's not too uncomfortable to sit or I'll have to skip using my Mac and visiting the forum for a while. Now that would be a blow.
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(Sniggel @ Aug. 01 2007,16:36)</div><div id="QUOTEHEAD">QUOTE</div><div id="QUOTE">Wow, that picture of 600 pounds is inspiring! hope i can rack lift that one day
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My bar is now permanently slightly bent which I guess is down to the rack pulls. It's supposed to be rated to 700lbs but evidently it wasn't man enough for the job. It's only a few months old so I may try and get a replacement or I may just buy a tougher bar.
(Sniggel @ Aug. 01 2007,16:36)</div><div id="QUOTEHEAD">QUOTE</div><div id="QUOTE">Wow, that picture of 600 pounds is inspiring! hope i can rack lift that one day
My bar is now permanently slightly bent which I guess is down to the rack pulls. It's supposed to be rated to 700lbs but evidently it wasn't man enough for the job. It's only a few months old so I may try and get a replacement or I may just buy a tougher bar.
RUSS
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(Lol @ Jul. 20 2007,16:39)</div><div id="QUOTEHEAD">QUOTE</div><div id="QUOTE">I've had to make the decision to stop all upper body work at the moment. My left forearm issue is just getting to be too much of a problem away from the gym. It's even hurting to type now! This is the most annoying and persistent injury that I've had so far. I've tried just working through it but it won't go away. I've tried high rep work for some extra lactic acid build up; no good either.
Exercises that make it worse:
Cleans
Deads
Dips
BB Rows
Chins
Presses
Bench
EZ-bar Curls
Tri-extensions (these hurt most when I try to lower the bar back down but even the top extended position is painful, although using an EZ-bar helps a bit).
So, I'm going to SD my upper body but continue with my squats for a bit. I'd like to continue with deads but even with my reverse grip reversed(!) my forearm still takes a beating so I think I'll have to stop them too. After a few weeks I'll take a full SD for another week or so. If my forearm has improved by then I'll ease it back in gradually by using even lighter loads for my upper body than usual.
Any more advice gratefully received.</div>
A similar issue developed with one of my shoulders some months back as a result of a bit too enthusiastic of an overhead press max single - I got the lift but paid the price for my impatience. Initially I switched to push press to continue my cycle and adjusted the weights up accordingly but once injured I felt the twinge in any overhead work, no matter the exersize.
I dropped overhead work for what little remained of my cycle, SDed and substituted upright rows as my shoulder compound for the next cycle- using a completely different movement for a cycle did the trick and in the following cycle I was able to bring overhead work back in almost right where I had left off poundage wise.
My point is that (for me) by switching to a completely different exersize for a cycle I believe I came out farther ahead than if I had tried to continue the exersize that I was injured from, once injured -the repetitive stress from the same planes and angles would have short circuited any healing.
Not sure if this can help you though as forearms are not shoulders and the list of movements you've provided that aggravate it is rather extensive compared to my issue ( just overhead pressing), good luck - I know injuries can be frustrating .
(Lol @ Jul. 20 2007,16:39)</div><div id="QUOTEHEAD">QUOTE</div><div id="QUOTE">I've had to make the decision to stop all upper body work at the moment. My left forearm issue is just getting to be too much of a problem away from the gym. It's even hurting to type now! This is the most annoying and persistent injury that I've had so far. I've tried just working through it but it won't go away. I've tried high rep work for some extra lactic acid build up; no good either.
Exercises that make it worse:
Cleans
Deads
Dips
BB Rows
Chins
Presses
Bench
EZ-bar Curls
Tri-extensions (these hurt most when I try to lower the bar back down but even the top extended position is painful, although using an EZ-bar helps a bit).
So, I'm going to SD my upper body but continue with my squats for a bit. I'd like to continue with deads but even with my reverse grip reversed(!) my forearm still takes a beating so I think I'll have to stop them too. After a few weeks I'll take a full SD for another week or so. If my forearm has improved by then I'll ease it back in gradually by using even lighter loads for my upper body than usual.
Any more advice gratefully received.</div>
A similar issue developed with one of my shoulders some months back as a result of a bit too enthusiastic of an overhead press max single - I got the lift but paid the price for my impatience. Initially I switched to push press to continue my cycle and adjusted the weights up accordingly but once injured I felt the twinge in any overhead work, no matter the exersize.
I dropped overhead work for what little remained of my cycle, SDed and substituted upright rows as my shoulder compound for the next cycle- using a completely different movement for a cycle did the trick and in the following cycle I was able to bring overhead work back in almost right where I had left off poundage wise.
My point is that (for me) by switching to a completely different exersize for a cycle I believe I came out farther ahead than if I had tried to continue the exersize that I was injured from, once injured -the repetitive stress from the same planes and angles would have short circuited any healing.
Not sure if this can help you though as forearms are not shoulders and the list of movements you've provided that aggravate it is rather extensive compared to my issue ( just overhead pressing), good luck - I know injuries can be frustrating .
UFGatorDude30
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<div></div><div id="QUOTEHEAD">QUOTE</div><div id="QUOTE">Unfortunately, the start of my next cycle is going to be delayed and I'm not going to be able to dead or squat for a while either. The results from my recent minor op show that I have my skin cancer back again. I am having full body and head CT scans and blood tests this week and then I have another op next Monday (6th August). This surgery (requiring the removal of a reasonable chunk of flesh) will be a lot more invasive than the last one and will leave me unable to bend over for at least a couple of weeks. I am not looking forward to it but I've been there before and hopefully the CT scans won't show up any other suspect areas.
The plus is that my forearm injury will get a bit longer to heal. I just hope it's not too uncomfortable to sit or I'll have to skip using my Mac and visiting the forum for a while. Now that would be a blow. </div>
I'm really sorry to hear that man. Let's hope it is limited to just the skin. Best of luck to you, and I'm glad you seem to still have a good attitude about things... that's all you really can do.
The plus is that my forearm injury will get a bit longer to heal. I just hope it's not too uncomfortable to sit or I'll have to skip using my Mac and visiting the forum for a while. Now that would be a blow. </div>
I'm really sorry to hear that man. Let's hope it is limited to just the skin. Best of luck to you, and I'm glad you seem to still have a good attitude about things... that's all you really can do.
Thanks folks. Thoughts all very much appreciated.
I've been pleased with my forearm's healing until yesterday when I had to help a mate shift some stuff into storage. Carrying a washing machine and a heavy tool station about has set it back a bit. Darn impressed with my grip though. It's like all household items are made of lighter stuff now. My mate's a mechanic so he has better than usual grip strength but he was struggling to hold on to the handle when we carried one of his heavy toolboxes. He had to put his end of the box down and swap hands but my right hand grip didn't feel like it was fatiguing at all. I think he was secretly a tiny bit impressed.
I've been pleased with my forearm's healing until yesterday when I had to help a mate shift some stuff into storage. Carrying a washing machine and a heavy tool station about has set it back a bit. Darn impressed with my grip though. It's like all household items are made of lighter stuff now. My mate's a mechanic so he has better than usual grip strength but he was struggling to hold on to the handle when we carried one of his heavy toolboxes. He had to put his end of the box down and swap hands but my right hand grip didn't feel like it was fatiguing at all. I think he was secretly a tiny bit impressed.
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(Totentanz @ Aug. 01 2007,19:36)</div><div id="QUOTEHEAD">QUOTE</div><div id="QUOTE">I know how you feel about the bar. I guess they don't make most bars with the assumption that people will be using them to lift actual weights.</div>
Ha, ha. When I was looking for a new bar yesterday I noticed that you can actually buy a complete set of weights and bar which weighs 20kg in total! I bet it has squats as part of the included w/o program too.
(Totentanz @ Aug. 01 2007,19:36)</div><div id="QUOTEHEAD">QUOTE</div><div id="QUOTE">I know how you feel about the bar. I guess they don't make most bars with the assumption that people will be using them to lift actual weights.</div>
Ha, ha. When I was looking for a new bar yesterday I noticed that you can actually buy a complete set of weights and bar which weighs 20kg in total! I bet it has squats as part of the included w/o program too.
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(Lol @ Aug. 01 2007,12:07)</div><div id="QUOTEHEAD">QUOTE</div><div id="QUOTE">Unfortunately, the start of my next cycle is going to be delayed and I'm not going to be able to dead or squat for a while either. The results from my recent minor op show that I have my skin cancer back again. I am having full body and head CT scans and blood tests this week and then I have another op next Monday (6th August). This surgery (requiring the removal of a reasonable chunk of flesh) will be a lot more invasive than the last one and will leave me unable to bend over for at least a couple of weeks. I am not looking forward to it but I've been there before and hopefully the CT scans won't show up any other suspect areas.
The plus is that my forearm injury will get a bit longer to heal. I just hope it's not too uncomfortable to sit or I'll have to skip using my Mac and visiting the forum for a while. Now that would be a blow.
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im sorry to hear of this lol.
but like a trooper you dont seem to be down about it so lets not dwell on it.
600lbs dude thats crazy,well done!
(Lol @ Aug. 01 2007,12:07)</div><div id="QUOTEHEAD">QUOTE</div><div id="QUOTE">Unfortunately, the start of my next cycle is going to be delayed and I'm not going to be able to dead or squat for a while either. The results from my recent minor op show that I have my skin cancer back again. I am having full body and head CT scans and blood tests this week and then I have another op next Monday (6th August). This surgery (requiring the removal of a reasonable chunk of flesh) will be a lot more invasive than the last one and will leave me unable to bend over for at least a couple of weeks. I am not looking forward to it but I've been there before and hopefully the CT scans won't show up any other suspect areas.
The plus is that my forearm injury will get a bit longer to heal. I just hope it's not too uncomfortable to sit or I'll have to skip using my Mac and visiting the forum for a while. Now that would be a blow.
im sorry to hear of this lol.
but like a trooper you dont seem to be down about it so lets not dwell on it.
600lbs dude thats crazy,well done!
Well, I've had my X-rays, CT scans (amazing), blood tests and op to remove a section of skin/flesh on my lower back. I now have to wait to see the specialist and discuss the results.
My back has now had a week to heal and is doing pretty well. Over the weekend, I was able to go for a row off the South Devon coast (4.75 miles according to a Google Earth plot) to see how my back would fare. It held out well (but my butt got sore as heck from the hard seat!) so I decided to start a new cycle this Monday and just go carefully. I was told not lift for a week and I have pretty much stuck to Doc's orders.
I'm still concerned about my left forearm so I will be monitoring that too. It does seem to have healed a bit.
So, new cycle starting Mon 13th August '07:
Week 1
Front Squats: 10 x 40kg, 10 x 50kg, 10 x 60kg, 3 x 10 x 70kg (154lb) - decided against 15s for these
Hang Cleans: 10 x 40kg, 10 x 45kg, 2 x 10 x 50kg (110lb) - no 15s here either.
Standing Press: 15 x 40kg, 2 x 10 x 40kg (88lb) - these were harder than I expected but I haven't done them for a while due to the forearm pain. Hopefully, they will pick up again this cycle if my forearm holds out. Cleans may have impacted on my delt/trap strength too.
Pendlay Rows: 15 x 40kg, 2 x 20 x 50kg (110lb) - nice and strict with no rest between reps.
Dips: bodyweight x 35, bodyweight x 30
Good workout. Glad to be able to get back to it so soon after my op. Forearm complained a bit during cleans and rows. Hope the light stuff aids healing up a bit. Might switch order of dips and presses next time.
My back has now had a week to heal and is doing pretty well. Over the weekend, I was able to go for a row off the South Devon coast (4.75 miles according to a Google Earth plot) to see how my back would fare. It held out well (but my butt got sore as heck from the hard seat!) so I decided to start a new cycle this Monday and just go carefully. I was told not lift for a week and I have pretty much stuck to Doc's orders.
I'm still concerned about my left forearm so I will be monitoring that too. It does seem to have healed a bit.
So, new cycle starting Mon 13th August '07:
Week 1
Front Squats: 10 x 40kg, 10 x 50kg, 10 x 60kg, 3 x 10 x 70kg (154lb) - decided against 15s for these
Hang Cleans: 10 x 40kg, 10 x 45kg, 2 x 10 x 50kg (110lb) - no 15s here either.
Standing Press: 15 x 40kg, 2 x 10 x 40kg (88lb) - these were harder than I expected but I haven't done them for a while due to the forearm pain. Hopefully, they will pick up again this cycle if my forearm holds out. Cleans may have impacted on my delt/trap strength too.
Pendlay Rows: 15 x 40kg, 2 x 20 x 50kg (110lb) - nice and strict with no rest between reps.
Dips: bodyweight x 35, bodyweight x 30
Good workout. Glad to be able to get back to it so soon after my op. Forearm complained a bit during cleans and rows. Hope the light stuff aids healing up a bit. Might switch order of dips and presses next time.
TunnelRat
Active Member
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(Lol @ Aug. 13 2007,22:08)</div><div id="QUOTEHEAD">QUOTE</div><div id="QUOTE">My back has now had a week to heal and is doing pretty well.</div>
Lookin' good, Lol...!
I've had some experience with surgeries (most recently I had some work done on my shoulders). Sometimes it can take a while to get things rolling again -- my upper body strength still suffers -- but you seem to be right back in the groove!
(Lol @ Aug. 13 2007,22:08)</div><div id="QUOTEHEAD">QUOTE</div><div id="QUOTE">My back has now had a week to heal and is doing pretty well.</div>
Lookin' good, Lol...!
I've had some experience with surgeries (most recently I had some work done on my shoulders). Sometimes it can take a while to get things rolling again -- my upper body strength still suffers -- but you seem to be right back in the groove!
Wed 15th August '07:
Deads: 10 x 90kg, 2 x 15 x 105kg (231lb) - regular grip, ie. not reverse grip
Standing Press: 20 x 40kg, 2 x 15 x 42.5kg (93.5lb) - much better than Monday's effort following cleans but pretty hard on my forearm.
Parallel grip chins: 15 x bw, 2 x 12 x bw - at last I can do these again. Much kinder to my forearm than under or over grip.
Dips: 35 x bw+5kg, 25 x bw+5kg, 20 x bw+5kg
I still need to sort out a way to add bb benching back in to my routine.
Feel nicely drained from that little lot. Wanted to finish with calves but couldn't be bothered to unload the bar, lift it and load it all up again. Lazy ass. Will have to do them tomorrow.
Deads: 10 x 90kg, 2 x 15 x 105kg (231lb) - regular grip, ie. not reverse grip
Standing Press: 20 x 40kg, 2 x 15 x 42.5kg (93.5lb) - much better than Monday's effort following cleans but pretty hard on my forearm.
Parallel grip chins: 15 x bw, 2 x 12 x bw - at last I can do these again. Much kinder to my forearm than under or over grip.
Dips: 35 x bw+5kg, 25 x bw+5kg, 20 x bw+5kg
I still need to sort out a way to add bb benching back in to my routine.
Feel nicely drained from that little lot. Wanted to finish with calves but couldn't be bothered to unload the bar, lift it and load it all up again. Lazy ass. Will have to do them tomorrow.
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(Lol @ Aug. 01 2007,12:07)</div><div id="QUOTEHEAD">QUOTE</div><div id="QUOTE">Unfortunately, the start of my next cycle is going to be delayed and I'm not going to be able to dead or squat for a while either. The results from my recent minor op show that I have my skin cancer back again. I am having full body and head CT scans and blood tests this week and then I have another op next Monday (6th August). This surgery (requiring the removal of a reasonable chunk of flesh) will be a lot more invasive than the last one and will leave me unable to bend over for at least a couple of weeks. I am not looking forward to it but I've been there before and hopefully the CT scans won't show up any other suspect areas.
The plus is that my forearm injury will get a bit longer to heal. I just hope it's not too uncomfortable to sit or I'll have to skip using my Mac and visiting the forum for a while. Now that would be a blow.
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Sorry to hear that mate, good luck with that and hope all works out.
(Lol @ Aug. 01 2007,12:07)</div><div id="QUOTEHEAD">QUOTE</div><div id="QUOTE">Unfortunately, the start of my next cycle is going to be delayed and I'm not going to be able to dead or squat for a while either. The results from my recent minor op show that I have my skin cancer back again. I am having full body and head CT scans and blood tests this week and then I have another op next Monday (6th August). This surgery (requiring the removal of a reasonable chunk of flesh) will be a lot more invasive than the last one and will leave me unable to bend over for at least a couple of weeks. I am not looking forward to it but I've been there before and hopefully the CT scans won't show up any other suspect areas.
The plus is that my forearm injury will get a bit longer to heal. I just hope it's not too uncomfortable to sit or I'll have to skip using my Mac and visiting the forum for a while. Now that would be a blow.
Sorry to hear that mate, good luck with that and hope all works out.
Fri 17th August '07:
Only had four-and-a-half hours sleep last night so tired before I started.
ATG Squats: 3 x 15 x 90kg (198lb) - Final set was pretty tough.
Seated DB Press: 2 x 15 & 1 x 20 x 16kg (35lb) dbs - Kinder on my forearm. A bit light really.
Bent-over DB rows: 15 x 26kg (57lb), 2 x 15 x 31kg (68lb) dbs - Again, kinder on my forearm than bb rows.
DB Flyes: 2 x 15 & 1 x 20 x 16kg dbs
Standing Calf Raise with BB: 20, 15, 10 & 10 x 120kg (264lb)
First week completed. I quite like the variety so far. Quite high volume for each exercise but I'm only doing a handful of them each session so I should be able to handle it for a while yet.
Only had four-and-a-half hours sleep last night so tired before I started.
ATG Squats: 3 x 15 x 90kg (198lb) - Final set was pretty tough.
Seated DB Press: 2 x 15 & 1 x 20 x 16kg (35lb) dbs - Kinder on my forearm. A bit light really.
Bent-over DB rows: 15 x 26kg (57lb), 2 x 15 x 31kg (68lb) dbs - Again, kinder on my forearm than bb rows.
DB Flyes: 2 x 15 & 1 x 20 x 16kg dbs
Standing Calf Raise with BB: 20, 15, 10 & 10 x 120kg (264lb)
First week completed. I quite like the variety so far. Quite high volume for each exercise but I'm only doing a handful of them each session so I should be able to handle it for a while yet.