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(jvroig @ Jun. 09 2007,10:38)</div><div id="QUOTEHEAD">QUOTE</div><div id="QUOTE"> <div></div><div id="QUOTEHEAD">QUOTE</div><div id="QUOTE">Deep within your heart, you realize that he is a troll, and that everything went according to his plan from the get-go, right?At least in his latest incarnation, which may have little to do with the person who originally registered here. Because if you want to tell me that this really helpful goodwanting bro, decide, ACCIDENTALLY, to post in a thread that was rather moronic in its initial premise, and, also ACCIDENTALLY, chose to post something that was bound to rub everyone here, that actually knows something, the wrong way, and also ACCIDENTALY used arguments that are quite typical for a certain category that is frowned upon here, then, also accidentally, spammed a number of PM inboxes here with threats, cursing, and whatnot(and I mean spammed, I have about 10 PMs received from the character in a window of only a few hours, all along the same lines), and ACCIDENTALLY started cursing and attacking directly on the forum, well, allow me to say that so many accidents rarely, if ever, happen at the same time, with the same person, in the same context.</div>
Just because you think he is a troll doesn't mean he is. More importantly, assuming he is doesn't help at all. When he crossed the line and sent abusive PMs, that's grounds for deletion, no doubt about it (just to clarify, Bryan's the one who deleted him or gave him probation, whatever his status is right now), but that doesn't mean that everyone else involved is 100% guilt-free.
This is for all of us. What I'm concerned about is that sometimes some people forget that not everyone is as knowledgeable as they are - or even that people may believe differently. Now, whoever you may be, if you are the first to throw an offensive volley by being sarcastic and ridiculing the person instead of refuting beliefs with facts, then you are part of my problem, and my problem is that I don't want people to shy away from HST or keep them from learning more about HST and getting involved because they get the impression that people here have an elitist attitude. Although some sarcasm and wit may make you more popular with some guys here, it doesn't help any newbies who are out here in the board trying to get a better grasp of HST.
I repeat, I'm not defending JS. He crossed the line, he gets deleted. But just because he did so doesn't necessarily make everyone else guilt-free. This is a lesson for all of us. I don't appreciate the JS attitude, but I also don't appreciate the attitude of those who kept throwing fuel on the fire as those events happened. I also hate it when you assume you are better than someone else (lines like "sorry for stooping down to his level"), because that kind of arrogance is no different than the arrogance of those authoritative, strong personalities we've had on this board (Like Vince / Allman, same person I believe), and you know that it will just infuriate the other party even more so you are intentionally fanning the flames.</div>
I`m at a loss as to how a...newbie, as you say, will be helped in his endeavour to learn about HST by an less than ideal signal to noise ratio. Because basically what you`re saying is that anyone can post anything, and if he`s determined enough to cling on to that anything, even if it`s beyond retarded, he should be catered to because...just because. If this forum becomes filled with:you gotta do ten types of curls, eat every 2.5 minutes exactly 32,(33) grams of protein, preferably raw etc. types of posts, how is one to distinguish what is what?Does it have anything to do with a training system that was developed by Bryan after years of education and studying on the topic, a system that draws its roots from proper research and not the anecdotal evidence of freakish triple headed biceps of pro-bbers?
This is a general enquiry, spawned by a trend that`s noticeable lately on these boards. Is this the new scope of HST?And in this particular case, the man`s claims were argued against properly way before actual sarcasm was involved. And if one can`t handle some sarcasm and goes on a rampage just because his silly ideas aren`t embraced, is he really intelectually apt to be here?BBing.com, OxygenMag, Intense Muscle, sure, those heaven for this type of individual, but here?
God knows I don`t know everything, and I`ve made a number of stupid claims since I`ve gotten involved in this and started learning about training, nutrition and so on. I think that no one can state, without fear of being horribly wrong, that he was always in the right, always correct, always educated, that all of his assertions were both intelligent and that, to use Internet lingo, he was never PWNED in a debate by someone more knowledgeable/educated. You can either learn from this, and accept that you`re not allknowing, or you can go amok and tell all the bros they`re wrong and you`re the only one who`s right.
I guess my basic question is this:how low is the entry level?Is every nutty thing game for being posted here?
