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there's something I don't see incorporated into these equations (and i know they're just a heuristic but still) - the (alleged )fact that someone who is naturally skinny with a high metabolism needs more calories to maintain/grow than somoene who's naturally larger, even if both are at the same...

but consider the reception of the "professional" and "academic" circles in this field. They'd probably hold a book that consistently appealed to their level of knowledge with higher esteem. Such is the nature of human prejudice. Yes they could just skip the...

wow stevo - those are inspirational results. You must've worked really hard at the diet and training to get to where you've reached.

btw - you said you had the orgasm, but held it back. You realize that when you squeeze the PC muscle, you're actually also squeezing the "tube" through which the semen flows. So if you had a genuine orgasm, but squeezed tightly, that's just the same as a normal one, as far as I know...

He's the only person i've been able to find that has that opinion. And I don't think it's the holding back of orgasm he claims is bad, but the exercising of the pc muscle at that point. If his research is so profound, how come it's not entering the mainstream scientific literature? Why do you...

so you think that bringing urself close to orgasm also gives a test boost? Keebler elf said same thing earlier in this thread i think. Where did you hear about this?

Yeah i think any form of ejaculation cancels it out - preseminal emmissions shouldn't be a problem though, though i'm not 100 percent sure. What do you mean get hard for that test boost?

Ok i'm on my 4th or 5th day of abstinence - just had an incredibly powerful workout - i haven't possessed so much strength in ages. Was doing 225 SLDL's with barehands no straps, and both hands pronated (palms facing behind me). Forearms didn't give out at all like they usually do at that...

yeah he has some interesting "research" - but he responds to emails.

Hmm - this is another side to this interesting coin: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez....bstract Perhaps there is a sweet spot to be milked - too much and you may start getting reduced T. Someone needs to do a serious study!

On a related note: is there any way, accessible to the common fella, of accurately measuring how much mercury is in your system?

last i remember reading, the mercury is only a potential danger for fetuses - hence if ur pregnant mebe u should abstain. personally i'm just disgusted that we even allow such substances into the oceans

yep - see my above post: i'm guessing it's a lot more expensive to measure free testosterone right? But again, according to the article micmic linked, the bioactive portion of testosterone comprises both Ftest, AND the albumin bound portion (which together comprises 56 percent of total if i'm...

Michael - thanks for that extremely useful tip :)

not sure exactly what that paper is trying to say with respect to the discussion - if i understood it at all, it's saying that there is a correlation between the exogenous dose, age, baseline, and the hypertrophic response. It doesn't seem to quantify the changes - all it seems to indicate is...

yes, but not just a temporary increase due to natural fluctuations - a sustained period wherein T-levels are peaking and not fluctuating.

but perhaps a sustained period of no fluctuation, remaining at peak levels, will have an effect? I'm having difficulty seeing how a study could be designed to show that fluctuations have or don't have significant effects associated with testosterone. If, however, a more detailed study was...

Micmic: I understand now. I read it a bit more carefully and read that article you linked to - very informative, though I skimmed part 2. My current understanding of the ejaculation study indicates that without ejaculation, testosterone remains at a peak level, and does not fluctuate. If this...

hm - but if that study i linked to is sound, wouldn't the spike to 150 percent aid hypertrophy, if even indirectly? edit: and 150 percent is hardly miniscule!

here's a thread on an interesting angle on testosterone http://www.hypertrophy-specific.com/cgi-bin....=sexual