I decided to try out a supplement called Anabeta which has been getting mostly rave reviews on several forums (I have found a few naysayers). Note, I’m not going to link to the product site or sales sites since I am not advocating nor trying to sell this product, just trying to offer what I feel is my own, hopefully unbiased insight into its effects. Here is a link to what it is. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anacyclus_pyrethrum And a link to the only study of its effects I am aware of. Note that this is a rat and not human study. http://www.scipharm.at/download.asp?id=346 Here is a list of reviews of what people are expericning. Note that this list is being compiled by a sales rep: http://www.anabolicandrogenicforums.com/f44/pes-anabeta-reviews-so-far-2736.html Here is a quick rundown of common comments Takes 3-4 days for most to notice effects some take 7-10 days Increased vascularity Intense workout pump that last all day Increased muscle hardness Increased appetite Increased thrust Increased libido Diuretic effect after dosing Enhanced mood Fedex delivered the bottle 4 days ago just after my Pull workout so I started taking it right away following the standard recommend protocol of 1 cap pre-workout, 1-cap post workout, and 2 more spread throughout the day. Within an hour of taking the first cap I felt a general calming (mellowing) effect combined with an enhanced feeling of focus (no spacey-ness). (note: at this time I was in a very pissed off mood do to more BS going on at work so I’m not sure if I would have had as noticeable an effect had I already been in a good mood). This effect lasted throughout the day. However, the since then either the mood enhancing effect has abated some or I’ve just grown accustomed to being in a better mood and less pissed off. For most of the first day after starting to take it I had the runs. However, after the first day this went away. I can’t say I’ve notice any increase in muscle pump during the workout however, the first day I took it post (pull) workout I did need someone to help me pull my shirt out of the rolled up sleeves when I got to work. The last time this happened was when I tried the 25 rep myo-rep workout. Today after (push) workout I measured my upper arm flexed at 14.75” which is only .5” bigger than my last pre-workout flexed measurement (I haven’t ever measured post workout before). So nothing I wouldn’t attribute to a normal post workout pump. Note that I think I am dehydrated from working outside all day for the last 2 days backed up by my body weight being 1 pound less than last Friday. I did seem to have quite a bit of post workout vascularity in my forearms today but since I’ve never paid attention to that before I can’ say if it’s more. As I type this about an hour and a half post workout most of that vascularity is gone. I wanted to take my blood pressure to see if that was getting screwed with but couldn’t find the power adapter for the machine so I’ll have to look again an try to figure out were the hell I could have hidden. So far I’m not noticing any of the other common effects like increased hunger, thirst, libido etc. . . . I will keep this updated as I notice anything new or no additional effects.