cluster sets questions

[imported_dyhp]

I'm on my fives now and I would like to cluster train.
Do I basically do as many reps as I can untill I do lets say 15 reps.
1 set of 7
1 set of 5
1 set of 3
(total of 15)

whats about

1 set of 4
1 set of 3
1 set of 3
1 set of 2
1 set of 2
1 set of 1
(total of 15)


Is it basically the same thing, if I were to do it either way.

I'm just confused on how it works, any clarification would be appreciated.

 

[Sphinx]

To me...the first cluster looks better for fives...the second looks better for the negatives, maybe.
Others will comment.
Sphinx.

 

[Totentanz]

I just do it however I can. I'll start the first set, and stop when I feel like I could still pump out another rep or two, rest a bit, then go again until I get to the point where I feel like I could only do another rep or two. Just keep away from failure and you should be okay, in my opinion.

 

[the_dark_master]

Strictly speaking you should never need to do cluster reps, by virtue of the weight being either sub or at a rm weight. However we all know that real life don't always match with the theory...
Avoid clustering as much as possible, failing that - try to keep the batches of reps as high as you can (for a more systemic effect) otherwise your sub 15rm weight ends up being more like your 3 or 4rm (then the gym rats will really start to take the piss)

Lift hard - grow big

 

[Jester]

That's the first opinion I've read advising the avoidance of clustering.....why do you think that's the way to go? I think the principle is sound, as you avoid CNS fatigue.

 

[RSS]

Quote[/b] ]Avoid clustering as much as possible, failing that - try to keep the batches of reps as high as you can (for a more systemic effect) otherwise your sub 15rm weight ends up being more like your 3 or 4rm (then the gym rats will really start to take the piss)

I think he is talking about doing it on his 5s, not 15s. It is just another way of reaching a total of 15 reps other than 3 sets of 5. No one is advocating breaking up a set with a sub 15rm weight into several sets of 3 or 4 reps.

The approach described by Totentanz is a good one, and one I often use myself towards the end of a cycle.

Rob

 

[Totentanz]

Quote[/b] (dyhp @ Mar. 17 2005,8:34)]I'm on my fives now and I would like to cluster train.

Yeah, I think he's definitely talking about his fives.

 

[imported_dkm1987]

Quote[/b] (dyhp @ Mar. 17 2005,7:34)]I'm on my fives now and I would like to cluster train.
Do I basically do as many reps as I can untill I do lets say 15 reps.
1 set of 7
1 set of 5
1 set of 3
(total of 15)

1. If your are at your 5RM you shouldn't be hitting 7 reps, if under your 5RM then 7 would be possible but you are probalby better off sticking to sets at that point. Clustering is better when you are considering a larger volume increase. IE 20 reps or higher, just going for 15 isn't probably worth changing to a cluster routine.

 

[imported_dyhp]

Quote[/b] (dkm1987 @ Mar. 18 2005,9:32)]

Quote[/b] (dyhp @ Mar. 17 2005,7:34)]I'm on my fives now and I would like to cluster train.
Do I basically do as many reps as I can untill I do lets say 15 reps.
1 set of 7
1 set of 5
1 set of 3
(total of 15)

1. If your are at your 5RM you shouldn't be hitting 7 reps, if under your 5RM then 7 would be possible but you are probalby better off sticking to sets at that point. Clustering is better when you are considering a larger volume increase. IE 20 reps or higher, just going for 15 isn't probably worth changing to a cluster routine.

Ok , I guess I'll just stick with 3 sets of five. Thanky you everyone