i guess i just don't get it. why, provided you get the right food at the right time, can you not lose fat/stay lean and gain muscle at the same time ? if you have carbs strictly around workouts, get lots of protein, the right amount of EFA's, have nothing but protein after 6-8pm, do enough cardio ... i mean ... the body gets what it needs when it needs it. then why not ? .... i must be missing something.