Strength PR's

Discussion in 'Strength-Specific Training (SST)' started by colby2152, Apr 3, 2008.

  1. colby2152

    colby2152 New Member

    Tot, I will take your word for Lol's numbers. I'll wait till he gets back from the Highlands to get the official report...

    Lol = 1155
    Lcars = 1145 (current), 1215 (past)
    Quad = 1145
    Tot = 1060
    JoeMuscle = 975
    Bax = 920
    Sci = 905
    il_dottore = 754
    Colby = 690
    TR = 680
    XFM = 600
     
  2. Totentanz

    Totentanz Super Moderator Staff Member

    That's just based on his most recent PRs - 473 dead, 396 squat, 286 bench

    But if Russ was still active, he'd blow all of us away easily.
     
  3. TunnelRat

    TunnelRat Active Member

    <div>
    (quadancer @ Apr. 04 2008,08:27)</div><div id="QUOTEHEAD">QUOTE</div><div id="QUOTE">Xfat: you're a noob, so it's irrelevant. You've consistently gotten stronger on a cut. That's relevant.
    TR: don't forget to use the right age class. I do pretty well for mine, but should mention that I have to use a manta ray to squat, because of my trap problem. Not legal.
    Aaron: C'mon man, you KNOW we won't laugh! [​IMG]</div>
    Colby, Quad is right. You're our numbers guy. You've gotta make your personal expertise with numbers pay off here. You should apply the Swartz Formula, and the Masters Age Mulitples, based on age and weight classes, to determine the better lifters.

    The Schwartz Formula

    To determine the best lifter or lift find the lifters bodyweight coefficient number from the list by looking down the left hand column and the tenths of a kilo across the top. For example, a lifter that weighed 74.5 kg has a coefficient of .6680. To convert a lifters bodyweight from pounds to kilos multiply the bodyweight by 2.2046. Then multiply this number by the individual lift or total. The lifter with the highest resulting figure is the “best lifter”.


    KG .0 .1 .2 .3 .4 .5 .6 .7 .8 .9
    40 1.3133 1.3092 1.3052 1.3011 1.2971 1.2931 1.2891 1.2851 1.2812 1.2773
    41 1.2734 1.2695 1.2656 1.2618 1.258 1.2542 1.2504 1.2467 1.2429 1.2392
    42 1.2355 1.2318 1.2282 1.2245 1.2209 1.2173 1.2138 1.2102 1.2067 1.2032
    43 1.1997 1.1962 1.1927 1.1893 1.1858 1.1824 1.1791 1.1757 1.1723 1.1690
    44 1.1657 1.1624 1.1591 1.1558 1.1526 1.1494 1.1462 1.143 1.1398 1.1367
    45 1.1355 1.1304 1.1273 1.1242 1.1211 1.1181 1.1150 1.1120 1.1090 1.1060
    46 1.1031 1.1001 1.0972 1.0942 1.0913 1.0884 1.0856 1.0827 1.0799 1.0770
    47 1.0742 1.0714 1.0686 1.0659 1.0631 1.0604 1.0577 1.0550 1.0523 1.0496
    48 1.0469 1.0443 1.0416 1.0390 1.0364 1.0338 1.0312 1.0287 1.0261 1.0236
    49 1.0211 1.0186 1.0161 1.1036 1.0111 1.0087 1.0062 1.0038 1.0014 .9990
    50 .9966 .9942 .9919 .9895 .9872 .9849 .9826 .9803 .9780 .9757
    51 .9734 .9712 .9690 .9667 .9645 .9623 .9601 .9580 .9558 .9536
    52 .9515 .9494 .9473 .9452 .9432 .9410 .9389 .9368 .9348 .9328
    53 .9307 .9287 .9267 .9247 .9227 .9218 .9188 .9169 .9149 .9130
    54 .9111 .9092 .9073 .9054 .9035 .9016 .8998 .8979 .8961 .8943
    55 .8924 .8906 .8888 .8870 .8853 .8835 .8817 .8800 .8782 .8765
    56 .8748 .8731 .8714 .8697 .8680 .8663 .8646 .8630 .8613 .8597
    57 .8580 .8564 .8548 .8532 .8516 .8500 .8484 .8468 .8453 .8437
    58 .8422 .8406 .8391 .8376 .8361 .8345 .8330 .8316 .8301 .8286
    59 .8271 .8257 .8242 .8228 .8213 .8199 .8185 .8170 .8156 .8142
    60 .8128 .8114 .8101 .8087 .8073 .8060 .8046 .8033 .8019 .8006
    61 .7993 .7979 .7966 .7953 .7940 .7927 .7915 .7902 .7889 .7876
    62 .7864 .7851 .7839 .7826 .7814 .7802 .7789 .7777 .7765 .7753
    63 .7741 .7729 .7717 .7706 .7694 .7682 .7671 .7659 .7647 .7636
    64 .7625 .7613 .7602 .7591 .7580 .758 .7557 .7546 .7535 .7524
    65 .7514 .7503 .7492 .7481 .7471 .7460 .7450 .7439 .7429 .7418
    66 .7408 .7398 .7387 .7377 .7367 .7357 .7347 .7337 .7327 .7317
    67 .7307 .7297 .7287 .7278 .7268 .7258 .7249 .7239 .7230 .7220
    68 .7211 .7201 .7192 .7183 .7174 .7164 .7155 .7146 .7137 .7128
    69 .7119 .7110 .7101 .7092 .7083 .7074 .7066 .7057 .7048 .7040
    70 .7031 .7022 .7014 .7005 .6997 .6989 .6980 .6972 .6964 .6955
    71 .6947 .6939 .6931 .6923 .6914 .6906 .6898 .6890 .6882 .6874
    72 .6867 .6859 .6851 .6843 .6835 .6828 .6820 .6812 .6805 .6797
    73 .6789 .6782 .6774 .6767 .6760 .6752 .6745 .6737 .6730 .6723

    KG .0 .1 .2 .3 .4 .5 .6 .7 .8 .9
    74 .6716 .6708 .6701 .6694 .6687 .6680 .6673 .6666 .6659 .6652
    75 .6645 .6638 .6632 .6624 .6617 .6610 .6603 .6597 .6590 .6583
    76 .6577 .6570 .6563 .6557 .6550 .6543 .6537 .6530 .6524 .6517
    77 .6511 .6505 .6498 .6492 .6486 .6479 .6473 .6467 .6461 .6454
    78 .6448 .6442 .6436 .6430 .6424 .6418 .6412 .6405 .6399 .6394
    79 .6388 .6382 .6376 .6370 .6364 .6358 .6352 .6347 .6341 .6335
    80 .6329 .6324 .6318 .6312 .6307 .6301 .6295 .6290 .6284 .6279
    81 .6273 .6268 .6262 .6257 .6251 .6246 .6241 .6235 .6230 .6224
    82 .6219 .6214 .6209 .6203 .6198 .6193 .6188 .6183 .6177 .6172
    83 .6167 .6162 .6157 .6152 .6147 .6142 .6137 .6132 .6127 .6122
    84 .6117 .6112 .6107 .6102 .6098 .6093 .6088 .6083 .6078 .6074
    85 .6069 .6064 .6059 .6055 .6050 .6045 .6041 .6036 .6031 .6027
    86 .6022 .6018 .6013 .6009 .6004 .6000 .5995 .5991 .5986 .5982
    87 .5978 .5973 .5969 .5965 .5960 .5956 .5952 .5947 .5943 .5939
    88 .5935 .5930 .5926 .5922 .5918 .5914 .5910 .5905 .5901 .5897
    89 .5893 .5889 .5885 .5881 .5877 .5873 .5869 .5865 .5861 .5857
    90 .5853 .5850 .5846 .5842 .5838 .5834 .5830 .5827 .5823 .5819
    91 .5815 .5812 .5808 .5804 .5801 .5797 .5793 .5790 .5786 .5782
    92 .5779 .5775 .5772 .5768 .5765 .5761 .5758 .5754 .5751 .5747
    93 .5744 .5740 .5737 .5734 .5730 .5727 .5723 .5720 .5717 .5714
    94 .5710 .5707 .5704 .5701 .5697 .5694 .5691 .5688 .5685 .5681
    95 .5678 .5675 .5672 .5669 .5666 .5663 .5660 .5657 .5654 .5651
    96 .5648 .5645 .5642 .5639 .5636 .5633 .5630 .5627 .5624 .5622
    97 .5619 .5616 .5613 .5610 .5608 .5605 .5602 .5599 .5597 .5594
    98 .5591 .5589 .5586 .5583 .5581 .5578 .5575 .5573 .5570 .5568
    99 .5565 .5563 .5560 .5558 .5555 .5553 .5550 .5548 .5545 .5543
    100 .5540 .5538 .5536 .5533 .5531 .5529 .5526 .5524 .5522 .5519
    101 .5517 .5515 .5513 .5510 .5508 .5506 .5504 .5502 .5500 .5497
    102 .5495 .5493 .5491 .5489 .5487 .5485 .5483 .5481 .5479 .5477
    103 .5475 .5473 .5471 .5469 .5467 .5465 .5463 .5461 .5459 .5457
    104 .5455 .5454 .5452 .5450 .5448 .5446 .5444 .5443 .5441 .5439
    105 .5437 .5436 .5434 .5432 .5431 .5429 .5427 .5426 .5424 .5422
    106 .5421 .5419 .5417 .5416 .5414 .5413 .5411 .5410 .5408 .5407
    107 .5405 .5404 .5402 .5401 .5399 .5398 .5396 .5395 .5393 .5392
    108 .5391 .5389 .5388 .5386 .5385 .5384 .5382 .5381 .5380 .5378
    109 .5377 .5376 .5375 .5373 .5372 .5371 .5370 .5368 .5367 .5366


    KG .0 .1 .2 .3 .4 .5 .6 .7 .8 .9
    110 .5365 .5364 .5362 .5361 .5360 .5359 .5358 .5357 .5355 .5354
    111 .5353 .5352 .5351 .5350 .5349 .5348 .5347 .5346 .5345 .5343
    112 .5342 .5341 .5340 .5339 .5338 .5337 .5336 .5335 .5334 .5333
    113 .5332 .5331 .5330 .5329 .5328 .5328 .5327 .5326 .5325 .5324
    114 .5323 .5322 .5321 .5320 .5319 .5318 .5317 .5316 .5316 .5315
    115 .5314 .5313 .5312 .5311 .5310 .5309 .5309 .5308 .5307 .5306
    116 .5305 .5304 .5303 .5302 .5302 .5301 .5300 .5299 .5298 .5297
    117 .5296 .5296 .5295 .5294 .5293 .5292 .5291 .5290 .5290 .5289
    118 .5288 .5287 .5286 .5285 .5284 .5283 .5283 .5282 .5281 .5280
    119 .5279 .5278 .5277 .5276 .5275 .5274 .5274 .5273 .5272 .5271
    120 .5270 .5269 .5268 .5267 .5266 .5265 .5264 .5263 .5262 .5261
    121 .5260 .5259 .5258 .5257 .5256 .5255 .5254 .5253 .5251 .5250
    122 .5249 .5248 .5247 .5246 .5245 .5243 .5242 .5241 .5240 .5239
    123 .5237 .5236 .5235 .5234 .5232 .5231 .5230 .5228 .5227 .5226
    124 .5224 .5223 .5221 .5220 .5219 .5217 .5216 .5214 .5213 ,5212
    125 .5210 .5209 .5208 .5206 .5205 .5204 .5203 .5202 .5200 .5199
    126 .5198 .5197 .5196 .5194 .5193 .5192 .5191 .5190 .5188 .5187
    127 .5186 .5185 .5184 .5182 .5181 .5180 .5179 .5178 .5176 .5175
    128 .5174 .5173 .5172 .5170 .5169 .5168 .5167 .5166 .5164 .5163
    129 .5162 .5161 .5160 .5158 .5157 .5156 .5155 .5154 .5152 .5151
    130 .5150 .5149 .5147 .5146 .5145 .5143 .5142 .5141 .5140 .5139
    131 .5138 .5137 .5136 .5134 .5133 .5132 .5131 .5130 .5128 .5127
    132 .5126 .5125 .5124 .5122 .5121 .5120 .5119 .5118 .5116 .5115
    133 .5114 .5113 .5112 .5110 .5109 .5108 .5107 .5106 .5104 .5103
    134 .5102 .5101 .5100 .5098 .5097 .5096 .5095 .5094 .5092 .5091
    135 .5090 .5089 .5088 .5086 .5085 .5084 .5083 .5082 .5080 .5079
    136 .5078 .5077 .5076 .5075 .5073 .5072 .5071 .5070 .5069 .5068
    137 .5067 .5066 .5065 .5064 .5062 .5061 .5060 .5059 .5058 .5057
    138 .5056 .5055 .5054 .5053 .5051 .5050 .5049 .5048 .5047 .5046
    139 .5045 .5044 .5043 .5042 .5040 .5039 .5038 .5037 .5036 .5035
    140 .5034 .5033 .5032 .5031 .5029 .5028 .5027 .5026 .5025 .5024
    141 .5023 .5022 .5021 .5020 .5018 .5017 .5016 .5015 .5014 .5013
    142 .5012 .5011 .5011 .5009 .5007 .5006 .5005 .5004 .5003 .5002
    143 .5001 .5000 .4999 .4998 .4997 .4995 .4994 .4993 .4992 .4991
    144 .4990 .4989 .4988 .4987 .4986 .4985 .4983 .4982 .4981 .4980
    145 .4979 .4978 .4977 .4976 .4975 .4974 .4973 .4972 .4971 .4970


    KG .0 .1 .2 .3 .4 .5 .6 .7 .8 .9
    146 .4969 .4968 .4967 .4966 .4965 .4964 .4963 .4962 .4961 .4960
    147 .4959 .4958 .4957 .4956 .4955 .4954 .4953 .4952 .4951 .4950
    148 .4949 .4948 .4947 .4946 .4945 .4944 .4943 .4942 .4941 .4940
    149 .4939 .4938 .4937 .4936 .4935 .4934 .4933 .4932 .4931 .4930
    150 .4929 .4928 .4927 .4926 .4925 .4924 .4923 .4922 .4921 .4920
    151 .4919 .4918 .4917 .4916 .4915 .4914 .4913 .4912 .4911 .4910
    152 .4909 .4908 .4907 .4906 .4905 .4904 .4903 .4902 .4901 .4900
    153 .4899 .4898 .4897 .4896 .4895 .4894 .4893 .4892 .4891 .4890
    154 .4889 .4888 .4887 .4886 .4885 .4884 .4883 .4882 .4881 .4880
    155 .4879 .4878 .4877 .4876 .4875 .4874 .4874 .4873 .4872 .4871
    156 .4870 .4869 .4868 .4868 .4867 .4866 .4865 .4864 .4863 .4862
    157 .4861 .4860 .4859 .4859 .4858 .4857 .4856 .4855 .4854 .4853
    158 .4852 .4851 .4850 .4850 .4849 .4848 .4847 .4846 .4845 .4844
    159 .4843 .4842 .4841 .4841 .4840 .4839 .4838 .4837 .4836 .4835
    160 .4834 .4833 .4832 .4832 .4831 .4830 .4829 .4828 .4827 .4826
    161 .4825 .4824 .4823 .4823 .4822 .4821 .4820 .4819 .4818 .4817
    162 .4816 .4815 .4814 .4814 .4813 .4812 .4811 .4810 .4809 .4808
    163 .4807 .4806 .4805 .4805 .4804 .4803 .4802 .4801 .4800 .4799
    164 .4798 .4797 .4796 .4796 .4795 .4794 .4793 .4792 .4791 .4790
    165 .4789 .4788 .4787 .4787 .4786 .4785 .4784 .4783 .4782 .4781


    * For bodyweights greater than 165 kg, subtract .0008 from .4781 for each kg greater than 165 *

    Masters Age Multiples



    AGE MAM AGE MAM AGE MAM AGE MAM

    40 1.000 50 1.130 60 1.340 70 1.645
    41 1.010 51 1.147 61 1.366 71 1.681
    42 1.020 52 1.165 62 1.393 72 1.718
    43 1.031 53 1.184 63 1.421 73 1.756
    44 1.043 54 1.204 64 1.450 74 1.795
    45 1.055 55 1.225 65 1.480 75 1.835
    46 1.068 56 1.246 66 1.1511 76 1.876
    47 1.082 57 1.268 67 1.543 77 1.918
    48 1.097 58 1.291 68 1.576 78 1.961
    49 1.113 59 1.315 69 1.610 79 2.005
    80 2.050


    The formula to determine masters best lifter is: (LT) X (SFC) X (MAM) = (PN)

    LT - Lifters total or single lift
    SFC - Schwartz Formula Coeffrcient
    MAM - Masters Age Multiple
     
  4. Jari

    Jari New Member

    I started weight training to gain power into my legs for cycling but luckily my friend Matti was a powerlifter who told me what and how to do:

    Squat 205 kg or 452
    Dead 230 kg or 507
    Bench 135 kg or 298

    Bodyweight 95 kg 210 lb

    I shall improve the bench to 150 kg 337 by the end of the year.

    It is good to be strong!
     
  5. quadancer

    quadancer New Member

    247.94 according to your formula is my squat number or PN? What does that mean?
    243.45 for bench
    213.97 for pendlay's
    These come out lower than the lift numbers. What are they, a code or score?
    Oh, and you meant divide, not multiply for pounds to kilos. I don't weigh 468 lbs. Yet. [​IMG]
     
  6. Aaron_F

    Aaron_F New Member

    <div>
    (quadancer @ Apr. 05 2008,02:27)</div><div id="QUOTEHEAD">QUOTE</div><div id="QUOTE">Aaron: C'mon man, you KNOW we won't laugh! [​IMG]</div>
    Not so much laughing.

    My main goal in training is increasing strength, where as most people here, strength is not the main goal.

    My PR's are not what I want them to be, but thats a combo of injuries, and being a wimp.

    Currently my best squat is 539, or 601 if off a box counts, bench is 474 and deadlift is 605.
     
  7. lcars

    lcars New Member

    <div>
    (Totentanz @ Apr. 04 2008,22:21)</div><div id="QUOTEHEAD">QUOTE</div><div id="QUOTE">That's just based on his most recent PRs - 473 dead, 396 squat, 286 bench

    But if Russ was still active, he'd blow all of us away easily.</div>
    i dunno know wasnt steve jones the strongest?

    @Aaron, dude thats some serious weight your shifting, thats over 4 plates a side for bench, id never hit that.

    how much do you weigh, bf etc?
     
  8. Totentanz

    Totentanz Super Moderator Staff Member

    <div>
    (lcars @ Apr. 05 2008,05:24)</div><div id="QUOTEHEAD">QUOTE</div><div id="QUOTE"><div>
    (Totentanz @ Apr. 04 2008,22:21)</div><div id="QUOTEHEAD">QUOTE</div><div id="QUOTE">That's just based on his most recent PRs - 473 dead, 396 squat, 286 bench

    But if Russ was still active, he'd blow all of us away easily.</div>
    i dunno know wasnt steve jones the strongest?

    @Aaron, dude thats some serious weight your shifting, thats over 4 plates a side for bench, id never hit that.

    how much do you weigh, bf etc?</div>
    Yeah stevejones would be the strongest, but we don't count people from krypton.
     
  9. squat/bench/dead

    320/270/420 = 1010
     
  10. scientific muscle

    scientific muscle New Member

    <div>
    (colby2152 @ Apr. 04 2008,22:09)</div><div id="QUOTEHEAD">QUOTE</div><div id="QUOTE">Tot, I will take your word for Lol's numbers.  I'll wait till he gets back from the Highlands to get the official report...

    Lol = 1155
    Lcars = 1145 (current), 1215 (past)
    Quad = 1145
    Tot = 1060
    JoeMuscle = 975
    Bax = 920
    Sci = 905
    il_dottore = 754
    Colby = 690
    TR = 680
    XFM = 600</div>
    Actually mine is 935 (255+295+385)...not that I'm proud of that. I really need to break 1000 soon!
     
  11. bobpit

    bobpit New Member

    Did not try 1RMs for years. My current PRs are in my signature.

    PRs (in Kgrs):
    SQ: 15x80, 10x90, 6x94
    DL: 15x123, 10x133, 7x145
    BP: 15x70, 10x79, 5x89
    Pendlay BB Rows: 15x67, 10x75, 5x81
    BB Military Press standing: 15x39, 10x47, 4x56
     
  12. colby2152

    colby2152 New Member

    Aaron = 1620
    Jari = 1260
    Quad = 1165
    Lol = 1155
    Lcars = 1145 (current), 1215 (past)
    Tot = 1060
    FF = 1010
    JoeMuscle = 975
    Sci = 935
    Bax = 920
    il_dottore = 754
    Colby = 690
    TR = 680
    XFM = 600

    Someone else can convert bobpit's numbers to 1 RM - don't have the time right now ~ going to workout and try to improve my pathetic 690! (weight of 233)
     
  13. quadancer

    quadancer New Member

    I added 20 lbs. to my squat today for a new pr. (385) Went deep too! Using low dose Superdrol, but in caloric deficit, so I guess that balances out somewhat.
     
  14. colby2152

    colby2152 New Member

    <div>
    (quadancer @ Apr. 08 2008,20:50)</div><div id="QUOTEHEAD">QUOTE</div><div id="QUOTE">I added 20 lbs. to my squat today for a new pr. (385) Went deep too! Using low dose Superdrol, but in caloric deficit, so I guess that balances out somewhat.</div>
    Updated... you passed up Lol, but we'll verify his numbers when he comes back from the Highlands.
     
  15. quadancer

    quadancer New Member

    Well, what do you guys think? My squats are coming up and so is my bench, but the bench is down at 315 right now from the 345 I hit last big bulk. So if we qualify my present squat, my present bench would be relevant, lowering my total while I'm on this cut. Of course, I did suggest that a PR should be something done within the last year, and I intend to pass my former ones next bulk.
    I dunno, what's fair to all?
     
  16. bgates1654

    bgates1654 New Member

    My 1RMs (calced from my 5RMs)
    Incline Bench: 235 (205)
    Squat: 280 (245)
    Deadlift: 365 (325)
    OHP: 160 (145)
    Pullup: 260 (225)
    Pendlay Row: 235 (215)
    Clean: 210 (185)
    Dip: 280 (245)
     
  17. bobpit

    bobpit New Member

    Aaron = 1620
    Jari = 1260
    Quad = 1165
    Lol = 1155
    Lcars = 1145 (current), 1215 (past)
    Tot = 1060
    FF = 1010
    JoeMuscle = 975
    Sci = 935
    Bax = 920
    bobpit = 834
    il_dottore = 754
    Colby = 690
    TR = 680
    XFM = 600

    (I used 3% increase for each RM jump.  So my total in lbs is 834.)
     
  18. leondrel

    leondrel New Member

    Hmmm, back when these were done I weighed 69kg/152lb ~10% bodyfat, gained some fat since then, damn lazy alcohol drinking party fun times

    Bench 82kg/180lb
    Chins 101.5kg/224lb
    One Leg Squat 79kg/174lb Both legs roughly the same (I hate normal squats [​IMG])
    Dips 89kg/196lb
    Military Press 60kg/132lb
     
  19. bobpit

    bobpit New Member

    I think it is a good idea when some people state their PRs in their signature (like mine). And update them as they get better. So whenever you read their posts, you know their caliber.
     
  20. colby2152

    colby2152 New Member

    <div>
    (bobpit @ Apr. 09 2008,03:31)</div><div id="QUOTEHEAD">QUOTE</div><div id="QUOTE">I think it is a good idea when some people state their PRs in their signature (like mine). And update them as they get better. So whenever you read their posts, you know their caliber.</div>
    I agree bobpit! Unfortunately, my main goals are not strength oriented at this moment. I am shedding body fat, hence the progress tracker in my signature. Upon reaching 10% body fat, I would like to improve my &quot;triple&quot; by 100 lbs within three months.
     

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