No, I was talking about dirt mixed with water. I just have issues with people who talk about dirty food, clean foods and so on. Yes, there are chemicals in foods that should be moderated or even avoided, but if taking the extremist view (not saying you are) we would end eating wheat grass and brocolli (oops watch out for E-Coli there as well), not what I would call a life. For instance HFCS is a hot topic right now, and I agree it's not the best source of carbs, but.......it's not the root of all that's evil either and the occasional indulgence isn't gonna cause you to drop dead or immediately get NIDDM. For instance in 1970, individual consumption of fructose was only about .5 lb/year, in 1997, 62.4 lb/year. This corresponds with the trends in obesity and NIDDM. So it's not the sweetener, it's the amount. Top that off with no activity and not accounting for the additional caloric content and what do you get??