Well to get off topic a little bit I have some questions for a couple of you. Like everyone I found HST to be the best thing for me. But once I joined here I have met many labcoat friends and there routines. I have found out through my own research and reading that HST is not the be all end all of programs. Its about the principals...and the principals exist in a lot of other routines. For example you may be doing HST, Max-stim...maybe you are over a Lyles forum and using his program...or maybe you are doing mad cow 5x5? For my curiousity it would be cool to see how Mikey Nov routine looks...or to see if Dan is constantly doing MAx stim? Hell I wonder if Bryan with his crazy schedule follows HST every workout.