Long Time No Hello

Discussion in 'Hypertrophy-Specific Training (HST)' started by mikeynov, Oct 11, 2017.

  1. mikeynov

    mikeynov Super Moderator Staff Member

    I just wanted to say hello to Bryan, Lol, Dan Moore, Sci Muscle, Totentanz, Old and Grey, NWLifter, Blade and any of the other many posters that might still be around. I haven't posted around here again in several years, but I always like to revisit this forum from time to time.

    It's interesting looking back at the history of these boards. Back in ~2001, in the early thinkmuscle days before the original HST days, I was gobbling up all the stuff Bryan was writing at the young age of ~21. 16 years later I'm 37 going on 38 and still find myself mentally revisiting the subject of the science behind resistance training quite frequently. Having gotten a couple of degrees in related fields (undergraduate degree in Biology, graduate degree in Clinical Exercise Phys), I still find the HST perspective on the subject of using resistance training to optimize hypertrophy refreshingly free of dogma and mystification still so common in fitness circles.

    I've had setbacks in my own training and nutrition - I wound up finding out I had pretty terrible cholesterol several years back and have performed a variety of experiments to help control this to some success. I've also had a couple of shoulder surgeries that were not entirely successful, so I've managed to lose a huge amount of strength/muscle. However, I'm slowly getting back the ability to perform most primary movements and looking to re-gain lost muscle mass, so I find myself gravitating back to HST principles. I recall having a discussion a few years back on the subject of "updating" the default HST routine to incorporate some of the results of more recent research (Wernbom et. al) combined with my own practical experience, and I'm considering writing a few more thoughts here at some point in the near future if anyone is around/interested.

    But either way, I just wanted to give a shout out to all the people who have contributed here over the years. It's ~16 years since the start of these boards and I still find a passion in the subject of resistance training science that was heavily influenced by Bryan's early writings. Beyond just the knowledge that Bryan shared, the other thing that always struck me as unique was how genuinely kind and patient Bryan was. In an online fitness world of so many abrasive, combative personalities it was always very refreshing to me to interact with like-minded people who cared first and foremost about the science behind this stuff and could find constructive ways to share and debate the topics. So cheers to all of you.
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  2. Old and Grey

    Old and Grey Super Moderator Staff Member

    Hey Mikey. Missed ya!
  3. Bryan Haycock

    Bryan Haycock Administrator Staff Member

    Mikey! Wow, so great to see you. I look forward to hearing about your educational experiences and the thoughts and ideas they have inspired.

    As you can see, the board look/feel is still pretty rudimentary, but the expertise around here is second to none. So glad you decided to stop in and say hello. I hope you can stick around a while. :)
  4. _Simon_

    _Simon_ Active Member

    Great to have you back here Mikey :). I always got a lot out of your posts, I think I joined up after you stopped posting so we never chatted. Glad to hear you're slowly on the mend, I've also been unwell with stuff last few months so getting back into the swing of things and also revisiting HST.

    And definitely I'm very interested in your thoughts on updating things based on current research! There's great research around from Wernbom, Schoenfeld etc, would love to hear your thoughts on it and how it can be applied to HST/resistance training in general.

    And +1 to Bryan and his kindness and generosity in all this, definitely refreshing.

    Welcome back :)
  5. Jester

    Jester Well-Known Member

    Still doing chin ups better than anyone else?
  6. mikeynov

    mikeynov Super Moderator Staff Member

    Thanks for the replies, guys, glad to still see some people around.

    Jester, funny question. My strength in general got pretty demolished by having two shoulder surgeries in the same year, and an inability to meaningfully lift for the better part of a year (it's amazing how much my body doesn't seem to want to be heavy and retain muscle). But about ~6 months after my second surgery, when I was first getting back into meaningful lifting, I tried a few sets of neutral grip pullups cautiously to see how they felt on my shoulders. Despite not having done any pullups/chins since the previous calendar year and my training consisting mostly of light PT-ish stuff, I was still able to do 13 strict pullups on my first attempt.

    For some reason I found that funny and a little comforting. So yah, my inherent pullup/chin strength did seem somewhat preserved.
  7. Totentanz

    Totentanz Super Moderator Staff Member

    Good to see you around, Mikey. Congrats on the degrees, that's quite an accomplishment.

    I've tried exploring outside the bounds of HST in my years of training but like you, I always seem to come back to those core HST principles. It just makes sense. I'd definitely be interested to hear your more recent thoughts on the 'HST 2.0' conversation from a while back (how many years now?) as last time we were all posting about that, it got a lot of good ideas flowing. Over the last little while, I've been focusing more on specialization cycles and that seems to be allowing continued progress while not losing ground in the areas I'm not focusing on.

    I agree one of the great things about this site was always that you could post your questions or thoughts and not have to worry about being belittled or taken apart by Bryan or any of the veterans. HST seems rather complex to the uninitiated... I know I don't post here as much lately (life, etc) but this is one of the few sites that I always end up coming back to, even if it's just lurking around.

    I know a log is quite a chore to maintain. I'm always terrible about it. But I'd definitely be interested in seeing one as you get fully back in to training.
  8. NWlifter

    NWlifter Active Member

    Mike dude! Great to see ya man!
    wow so sorry about your shoulder surgeries, ouch!!! But cool on the degrees! Congrats and good job!

    I hope you hang out and post once in a while, at least blow a few cobwebs out of this forum, it was and still is the best, just needs more of us posting. And just like the forum, it helps get the cobwebs out of my brain too, as this forum makes you THINK!

    Now if somehow Dan would resurface from recluse and post again, we could have a great time! Man I used to wake up excited to get on this forum and see what cool thoughts and ideas were posted, I sure miss those days!

    Man I agree, Bryan is the best, patient, lets us question things, explains things, a very rare breed!
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  9. Old and Grey

    Old and Grey Super Moderator Staff Member

    In the beginning of this forum, Bryan pretty much stood alone promoting frequency. Now it seems almost everyone is touting it. I think that Bryan did such a great job in presenting the proof behind frequency that less people need to come to this site to hear the virtues of it.
  10. NWlifter

    NWlifter Active Member

    But little do they know, they are missing out on our witty, intelligent and thought provoking company heh heh
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  11. _Simon_

    _Simon_ Active Member

    So true about training more frequently becoming talked about and applied more, it really just makes sense! And yeah would be very cool if the forum became more active for sure :) such knowledgeable folk!
  12. Old and Grey

    Old and Grey Super Moderator Staff Member

    Back on the sauce again eh NW? o_O
  13. NWlifter

    NWlifter Active Member

    LOL :D
  14. Sci

    Sci Well-Known Member

    Hello Mikey, Totentanz, Blade, Old&gray, Lol and the bunch. Still miss Dan Moore and the good old talks back in the 2000s! We are getting old! I hust hit 40 last month and i’m getting back to HST!
  15. mickc1965

    mickc1965 Well-Known Member

    Welcome back Sci, you have been away a long time (1277 days in fact, I am a saddo), how are things?
    Last edited: Apr 10, 2018
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  16. Luke matthews

    Luke matthews New Member

    I’m really nterested in what all you guys have to say. You guys are the experts and I follow closely what you write.

    Looking forward to learning more from you!
  17. Blade

    Blade Super Moderator Staff Member

    After all these years the training community has only grown, or more specifically - information is more freely available and more people are discussing/fighting about it online...I still miss the old days where one not only had civil but also intelligent and practical discussions with the members of this board.

    Feels like a reunion party here, just without the booze and the awkward small talk with the high school hero, now turned into a fat slob who keeps feeding his insecurities by bragging about his Jaguar and $10million house.
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  18. Sci

    Sci Well-Known Member

    Hello Mick, I’m doing well, I took an extremely long strategic de conditioning time. So now I’m back with my muscles already to grow again.
  19. _Simon_

    _Simon_ Active Member

    Can treat SD like progressive overload... the more you do it the more you increase the likelihood of growth ;D
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  20. Old and Grey

    Old and Grey Super Moderator Staff Member

    Hey Sci! I'm going into my second month of a forced 6 month SD due to rotator cuff surgery. You finally hit 40 eh? LOL. I will turn 73 in June and was still lifting a combo of HST and Myo reps until March. I think all those behind the neck presses that were the gospel in my first 40 years of lifting finally caught up to me even though I gave them up 20 years ago. Oh well. Back in the gym and on my horses by September 15. Don't be a stranger. All the irritating goofballs that had plagued us for a while have gone on to more fertile ground. Great to see Blade stop by too. He was my inspiration for years...still is. I read his articles religiously.
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