max stim- my thoughts

Discussion in 'Strength-Specific Training (SST)' started by coach hale, Apr 7, 2007.

  1. coach hale

    coach hale New Member

    relative strength has increased as well

    actually getting lean again incorportaing max stim

    attempting to enhance strength while dropping fat and training thai boxing 3-5 days per week

    thanks
    Coach Hale
    www.maxcondition.com
     
  2. colby2152

    colby2152 New Member

    For my next cycle, I was going to slow bulk with Dual Factor training, but I have been interested in Max-Stim for some time. This is the exact post I was looking for because I need my strength to improve more than it does in a standard HST cycle. I can only afford to eat as much at the rate of a slow bulk. Max-Stim is a bit time consuming with the reracking and m-time, so I assume I should stick with less exercises.... possible an AB split: Deads/Squats, Bench/Dips, Chins/Rows, Arnold Press/Military Press along with a decent warmup routine for my abs and obliques.
     
  3. style

    style New Member

    Max-Stim is a bit time consuming with the reracking and m-time

    Max Stim saves time. FACT!

    Honestly, you'll be able to get more work done, in less time
     
  4. coach hale

    coach hale New Member

  5. coach hale

    coach hale New Member

  6. coach hale

    coach hale New Member

    set new PR with stiff legged dead yesterday

    i have gotten significantly leaner over the past 8weeks while simultaneously increase my strength levels

    thanks
    Coach Hale
    www.maxcondition.com
     
  7. Slapshotz

    Slapshotz New Member

    <div>
    (coach hale @ May 10 2007,09:03)</div><div id="QUOTEHEAD">QUOTE</div><div id="QUOTE">i have gotten significantly leaner over the past 8weeks while simultaneously increase my strength levels

    thanks
    Coach Hale
    www.maxcondition.com</div>
    As have I, on my cut, Coach....I think the rumor that you must lose tons of strength on a cut has finally been put do sleep [​IMG]
     
  8. Tyler

    Tyler New Member

    <div>
    (coach hale @ May 10 2007,09:03)</div><div id="QUOTEHEAD">QUOTE</div><div id="QUOTE">set new PR with stiff legged dead yesterday

    i have gotten significantly leaner over the past 8weeks while simultaneously increase my strength levels

    thanks
    Coach Hale
    www.maxcondition.com</div>
    What's your volume and frequency been like while dieting?
     
  9. coach hale

    coach hale New Member

    three-four days

    primarily leg, hip, abs and lower back one
    day

    pushing and pulling the other day

    3-4 movements 15reps each

    also thai boxing and boxing 4-6 days per week

    thanks
    Coach Hale
    www.maxcondition.com
     
  10. quadancer

    quadancer New Member

    WHERE do you guys get this &quot;Max Stim saves time&quot; stuff? These sets seem to take forever!
     
  11. dkm1987

    dkm1987 New Member

    <div>
    (quadancer @ May 11 2007,20:58)</div><div id="QUOTEHEAD">QUOTE</div><div id="QUOTE">WHERE do you guys get this &quot;Max Stim saves time&quot; stuff? These sets seem to take forever!</div>
    Quad, it really depends on how you normally set up your routine.

    Let's say you were using 5X5 with a rep cadence of 1/1

    That's 50secs of actual loading. Add in the rest between sets, say 3 minutes, so that would equal 15 minutes and 50 secs for all 5 sets. Even if you were using 2 minutes between sets it still equals 10' 50&quot;

    MS

    again using a 1/1 cadence, and we'll say 25 reps as well.

    first 5 reps, using 5-7 secs rest in between each rep = 25-35 secs rest
    next 5 reps using 7-10 secs between each = 35 -50 secs
    next 5 reps using 10-15 secs between each =50-65 secs
    next 5 reps using 15-20 secs between each = 65-100 secs
    next 5 reps using 20-30 secs between each = 100-150 secs

    Total load time = 50 secs
    Total rest time = 275 secs-400 secs or ~ 5-7 minutes

    Total time 6-8 minutes for 25 reps.

    Naturally if there is increased set up time between lifts that adds up.

    It feels like they take forever because you are performing all 25 reps before moving to another exercise, but if you actually measure the time MS takes vs the time you would normally take I bet they are about equal or MS may even be shorter.
     
  12. co1889

    co1889 New Member

    I'm trying now to incorporate the max-stim into my current cycle; the only problem is that I don't know whether I should superset or not. It says &quot;if desired&quot;... what's that supposed to mean? I'm sure not going to do any extra sets unless it's definitely beneficial. Can someone explain the supersetting to me?
     
  13. dkm1987

    dkm1987 New Member

    <div>
    (co1889 @ May 13 2007,17:13)</div><div id="QUOTEHEAD">QUOTE</div><div id="QUOTE">I'm trying now to incorporate the max-stim into my current cycle; the only problem is that I don't know whether I should superset or not.  It says &quot;if desired&quot;... what's that supposed to mean?  I'm sure not going to do any extra sets unless it's definitely beneficial.  Can someone explain the supersetting to me?</div>
    If you are doing two exercises per BP then a good option is to superset a good isolation stretch movement directly after your main compound but this isn't necessary. A good example would be bench pres followed by pec dec or fly. Where strength is concerned it's probably not a good idea.
     
  14. quadancer

    quadancer New Member

    <div></div><div id="QUOTEHEAD">QUOTE</div><div id="QUOTE">It feels like they take forever because you are performing all 25 reps before moving to another exercise, but if you actually measure the time MS takes vs the time you would normally take I bet they are about equal or MS may even be shorter. </div>
    Nope, it actually TOOK forever because I'd done it a long while after skimming the MS article...and I was incorrectly resting for 30 secs from the start. No wonder it felt so easy! I never got tired! DUH!
    You know we guys rarely read the instructions or directions... [​IMG]
     
  15. MoDog

    MoDog New Member

    MS is da s...kicker 4 strength! [​IMG] I've complemented my CLuster-cycle with MS during the last 4 or 5 weeks, as the weights are gettin really heavy. I still make Strength gains although I'm cutting, too.
     
  16. dkm1987

    dkm1987 New Member

    <div>
    (quadancer @ May 14 2007,17:33)</div><div id="QUOTEHEAD">QUOTE</div><div id="QUOTE"> <div></div><div id="QUOTEHEAD">QUOTE</div><div id="QUOTE">It feels like they take forever because you are performing all 25 reps before moving to another exercise, but if you actually measure the time MS takes vs the time you would normally take I bet they are about equal or MS may even be shorter. </div>
    Nope, it actually TOOK forever because I'd done it a long while after skimming the MS article...and I was incorrectly resting for 30 secs from the start. No wonder it felt so easy! I never got tired! DUH!
    You know we guys rarely read the instructions or directions... [​IMG]</div>
    Ahhhhhhhhhhhh, yup that would do it.
     
  17. coach hale

    coach hale New Member

    tested my 1rm hack squat today it has increased 10% from the last time i measured about 3months ago

    my bodyweight is also approximately 10% lower than it was three months ago

    thanks
    Coach Hale
    www.maxcondition.com
     
  18. faz

    faz Active Member

    just started using max-stim for my bis,am using my 10rm at the moment but will increase every wk see how it goes.
    doing curls with my partner i do 1 curl then hand the barbell to him and he does 1 curl etc [​IMG] we stand facing each other and get some strange looks [​IMG] as the weight goes up i might have to start taking a bit more M time [​IMG] it does feel sort of strange doing my 10rm 20 times [​IMG] [​IMG]
     
  19. bgates1654

    bgates1654 New Member

    I have been on a cutting cycle these last 10-12 weeks or so. I started MS on days when my energy was lagging and switched completely in the last couple of weeks. My strength has gone up past my bulking cycle 5RMs in nearly all of my lifts. This could be due to the fact that I am relatively still new since I have only been training for a year an a half now.
     
  20. 9to5lifter

    9to5lifter New Member

    <div></div><div id="QUOTEHEAD">QUOTE</div><div id="QUOTE">it does feel sort of strange doing my 10rm 20 times</div>
    Just wait until you get to the point where you do 20 reps with your 3RM. Lots of fun! [​IMG]
     

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