Nutrition Pre/Post Cardio

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What is best for pre/post cardio nutrition, given normal HST goals?

In case it matters, I utilize tennis (~1.5 hrs., 1-2x/wk) and conventional cardio (~30 min., 1-2x/wk) workouts, both after dinner.

I read from Lyle's "stubborn fat removal" article:
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Quote[/b] ]Go home, and wait and hour before having a small protein meal (25-50 grams or so). No dietary fat. 2-3 hours later, go back to normal diet eating. Your daily calories shouldn't be any different than they were already, they are just distributed differently, you only have 100-200 immediately after cardio, and then the rest afterwards.

Is this the answer? Wouldn't most of the protein just be consumed for fuel?
 
I believe that protein snack is there to arrest atrophy. A good deal might be used as fuel, but raising the amino levels is primarily important to prevent muscle loss from the low-food workout.
 
In order to minimize muscle loss during cardio you should treat it just like your other training. Take a pre-cardio protein drink and then follow your cardio immediately with another protien drink.

This may increase amino acid oxidation, but it will spare muscle proteins as well as not interfear with fat mobilization (unlike carbs pre and post workout).
 
Thanks for the replies, guys. To clarify, "just like your other training" refers to protein intake, not carbs, right? I assume carbs should be minimized pre/post cardio, whereas they have an important purpose (gylcogen replenishment) pre/post HST.
 
Yeah, if you are wanting to mobilize fat don't take in carbs before hand. And there is some benefit to delyaing your carb intake for a while after cardio. This of course is assuming you are trying to lose fat as fast as possible (short term).

The pre-workout protein is still beneficial because it is shuttled to working muscles at a much greater rate than when only taken psotworkout, and allows higher intracellular amino acid levels for recovery afterwards.
 
I've always been told to wait for up to an hour before eating any carbs after cardio. I've never tried consuming protein right before and after cardio. I like the idea. I'm going to give this a try. Thanks!
 
When you read this study, you should supplement with pure whey protein before am cardio. I'm doing this for a few weeks now. Can't say for sure it makes a difference, seems I have more energy while running in the morning.

Am J Physiol Endocrinol Metab 2002 Sep;283(3):E565-72

A preexercise alpha-lactalbumin-enriched whey protein meal preserves lipid oxidation and decreases adiposity in rats.

Bouthegourd JC, Roseau SM, Makarios-Lahham L, Leruyet PM, Tome DG, Even PC.

Unite Mixte de recherche de Physiologie de la Nutrition et du comportement alimentaire, Institut National de la Recherche Agronomique, Institut National Agronomique Paris-Grignon, F75231 Paris, France.

The composition of the preexercise food intake is known to affect substrate utilization during exercise and thus can affect long-term changes in body weight and composition. These parameters were measured in male rats exercised 2 h daily over 5 wk, either in the fasting state or 1 h after they ingested a meal enriched with glucose (Glc), whole milk protein (WMP), or alpha-lactalbumin-enriched whey protein (CPalphaL). Compared with fasting, the Glc meal increased glucose oxidation and decreased lipid oxidation during and after exercise. In contrast, the WMP and CPalphaL meals preserved lipid oxidation and increased protein oxidation, the CPalphaL meal increasing protein oxidation more than the WMP meal. At the end of the study, body weight was larger in the WMP-, Glc-, and CPalphaL-fed rats than in the fasted ones. This resulted from an increased fat mass in the WMP and Glc rats and to an increased lean body mass, particularly muscles, in the CPalphaL rats. We conclude that the potential of the CPalphaL meal to preserve lipid oxidation and to rapidly deliver amino acids for use during exercise improved the efficiency of exercise training to decrease adiposity.
 
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