Here's a progress report from my first experience with pro hormones. I started the cycle 8 days ago with: 300 mg 1-AD 450 mg 4-AD (homemade transdermal) I started at this moderate dosage to access tolerance and upped both to my planned full dose after 4 days. I've taken for the last 4 days the following: 400 mg 1-AD 600 mg 4-AD (Always transdermal) So far I'm very pleased with results, but think it's too early to make a proper judgement. Before this I had a HST cycle that had to be aborted during the ten's and then I took a twelve day layoff (SD). I've gained a total of 4 kilos (roughly 9 pounds) and today at the gyms I got comments about how much bigger I look. I don't think this weight increase so far is that spectacular for the following reasons: - After the decondicioning period I always regain up to 2 kilos of glycogen/water weight in the first week of training. - This weight is regained weight. I lost over 30 pounds from January to July. - The increased calories, almost 800 above what I was taking before would by themselves, and taking into consideration the previous points, be reponsible for a considerable increase in weight. Neverthless, there's still 8 more days to go at full dosage and anything that comes after this will definitly impress me. All measurements have increased, except calves (the bastards...). Biceps up 6 and 7 mm Legs up 5 mm Chest up 1.3 cm Waist up 1.5 cm I feel and look bloated and look bigger. Strength was up today, but it's hard to quantify how much as I'm not working anywhere near my maximum. Side effects included some serious lethargy and tiredness the first few days from 1-AD, some significant increases in sex drive, headaches and some itchy nipples, but no lumps or swelling at all. Post cycle will be some formastin, as I also wanted something that could double as a on cycle anti estrogen. More latter as I progress into this.