[b said:
Quote[/b] (xtreme @ Jan. 01 2006,6:01)]
[b said:
Quote[/b] (Totentanz @ Jan. 01 2006,4:12)]Obviously you weren't eating enough then. If you had said "all that happened was I got fat" then I might believe you. But if you "gained nothing" then you have some severe issues with your diet plan and will fail on any training program, even Jreps.
I wish that were true but eating has never been an issue for me and I was well-nourished, of that I am sure. I have records that show my HST cycles and I finished each one the same size and weight as when I started.
For the record, I have no beef with anything you've said, have no idea if Jreps are the best thing since sliced bread, and don't think you're trying to "sell" anything.
That said, the "point" the other dude was making is this:
* If, in some period of time, you neither gain nor lose any weight, you are simply not eating enough. Period. No amount of training is going to significantly alter body composition if you are not in a situation, energetically speaking, to induce that change.
* If you do gain weight and too much of it is fat, your diet or training probably sucks. If your diet is good, we'd probably agree that your training is garbage.
* If you gain weight and an acceptable amount is muscle tissue, you are eating well and probably training well in respect to your goals.
That's the "point." You can gain muscle in isoenergetic situations sometimes (probably a redistribution of body tissue you already have, lose some fat, partition that towards new muscle or something), but in any APPRECIABLE change in body composition, to gain mass, you MUST be hypercaloric, which is definitionally gaining weight over time.
That you gained no weight indicates you simply did not eat enough relative to your training.
If you switched training, ate the same, and DID gain muscle, that DOESN'T necessarily mean that the former training system "didnt' work" and the latter "did." Because your "maintenance" level of calories is an interaction between your daily activities, exercise, and food intake.
So, some people find going to a HIT style routine worked better than HST. Maybe it did - and maybe they were expending signficantly fewer calories in the HIT routine. So they were actually hypercaloric with the new routine, whereas with the HST routine, they were not.
That's the "point." If you gain NO weight with a particular routine, no matter the routine, you are NOT eating enough relative to what training you are doing.
Capiche?