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Quote[/b] (Joe G @ Aug. 06 2005,11:12)]If you ask me it is almost all of the people on this thread that should be ashamed of themselves. To be so outraged that the majority of people dont feel it is necessary to risk their physical and psychological health in order to get big muscles is sad.
Actually the only outrage I've seen expressed here and elsewhere is over the fact that
if people decide to use they run the risk of going to prison. It's also expressed over the assumed harm of steroids when there's very little evidence to support that claim except mostly n=1 case studies from the seventies, often involving kids who were given ridiculous doses on a bodyweight basis for ridiculous amounts of time because they had growth problems or blood disorders, etc.
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Quote[/b] ]Especially when gains made while using anabolic steroids are usually lost once anabolic steroid use is discontinued.
Gains can be lost, often because the person using the steroids shouldn't have used them because they weren't ready, or water weight was lost. With proper diet and training it's more than possible to keep gains beyond a person's genetic limit for quite some time. With moderate use over time added to that it's even easier. For a person with a dialed in diet who is not at their genetic limit but progressing towards it who uses roids, keeping gains is also relatively easy. Many people confuse weight loss due to water or poor diet as being due to steroid usage and inherently unmaintainable gains. That's simply not the case.
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Quote[/b] ]And those of you who condemn those "experts" who really don't know about steroids, most of you are just as bad as them except you have the opposite opinion.
When there are opposing opinions on a matter there's always one fact that can't be escaped: one is right and the other is wrong. Those people likely haven't read a single study on the subject. Those people likely don't know that there isn't a single long term study on steroid side effects. Those people likely don't know that the few studies that have been done where dosages and duration of use have been kept sane have found little to no indicators of any negative health effects.
It's still possible that steroids have long term health effects, the problem is the people who support prohibition and demonize steroids take the position of: "We know they're dangerous. In fact they're so dangerous we don't think it's ethical to fund studies to actually prove they're dangerous. But, we
know they're dangerous."
That kind of thinking lands a lot of people in rubber rooms. And I find it slightly hypocritical that in our society people can cut, lift, suck and have inplants in any part of their body for cosmetic reasons, but a man can't manipulate his hormones a couple times a year to further the same goal.
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Quote[/b] ]This is possibly the only rational comment made on this thread.
Actually it's not as he's likely going to have problems finding a doctor who is willing to prescribe HRT. Maybe not severe difficulties, but likely some. Mostly because doctors, like many other people, accept the testosterone and other steroids=devil's seed common wisdom of the day regardless of evidence or lack thereof, and the doctors who don't accept that common wisdom don't always want to deal with the DEA and the FDA up their rear ends asking questions about this or that prescription.
