golfnut
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Sorry, I wasn't sure you were natural and had some reservations, but now I have all the facts up frontNice job!
Thank you. I have too much pride, to go to the dark side.
Sorry, I wasn't sure you were natural and had some reservations, but now I have all the facts up frontNice job!
No problem just felt your FFMI suggested natural so thought I would try and defend you as we share a birthday.Yes, you are correct and thank you for coming to my defense. I'm hoping to get the ffmi up a few before my next competition. I should be at 22.5 adjusted ffmi, not bad but still a long way to go, if I want to get to 25.
No problem just felt your FFMI suggested natural so thought I would try and defend you as we share a birthday.
Knowing his weight and height, a more trivial approach of detecting juiced up athletes would be:No problem just felt your FFMI suggested natural so thought I would try and defend you as we share a birthday.
http://www.leangains.com/2009/06/whats-my-genetic-muscular-potential.htmlHeight in centimeters - 100 = upper limit of weight in kilograms in contest shape.
Knowing his weight and height, a more trivial approach of detecting juiced up athletes would be:
http://www.leangains.com/2009/06/whats-my-genetic-muscular-potential.html
I beg to disagree that you grew better with HST. You were simply recovering the size lost during the cut. HST shines in recovering lost size. And you grew new muscle much better with DUP - that would be an undiplomatic but still an on spot way of describing things.As far as putting down HST and giving all the props to DUP, that wouldn't be fair either. Size, I think I did better on HST but strength, I would say I did a lot better on DUP.
I beg to disagree that you grew better with HST. You were simply recovering the size lost during the cut. HST shines in recovering lost size. And you grew new muscle much better with DUP - that would be an undiplomatic but still an on spot way of describing things.
Were you doing higher rep metabolic work during your HST cycles every workout? That would explain bigger sizes. Did you lose in size in other areas? Was the exercise selection the same? Maybe you didn't hit your arms as hard or as frequently.
Were you doing higher rep metabolic work during your HST cycles every workout? That would explain bigger sizes. Did you lose in size in other areas? Was the exercise selection the same? Maybe you didn't hit your arms as hard or as frequently.
I've been using DUP as well for the past eight weeks and all my maxes have improved. Here's my workout.
Monday hypertrophy 8 reps - bench, squat, deadlift and weighted pull-ups
Wednesday power 1-3 reps - same as above
Friday strength 5-6 reps - same as above
Saturday bi, tri, shoulder, upper and middle traps and calf work.
If all of my lifts are increasing, (in all of the rep ranges and of course my diet is in check) should I grow in this program? In your opinion. Thank you in advance.
I beg to disagree that you grew better with HST. You were simply recovering the size lost during the cut. HST shines in recovering lost size. And you grew new muscle much better with DUP - that would be an undiplomatic but still an on spot way of describing things.
My starting stats (my first bodybuilding contest)
7/22/2013
height 5'5"
weight 132 in the morning
arm 14.5
leg 19
chest 39
calf 12.5 (don't laugh)
body fat 3.9%
6/16/2014 (tried to bulk up)
weight 144
arm 15
leg 20.5
chest 40
calf 13
body fat 6.7%
8/12/2014 (after one cycle of HST training)
weight 157
arm 15.5
leg 22.5
chest 43
calf 13.25
body fat 7.96%
How many sets are you doing?
Rihad you appear to be determined to prove HST cannot work but if you look at the post below it shows that golfnuts competition was in July 2013 and in June 2014 before starting HST he weighed 144lbs so a 12lb gain in 11 months (don't know if all that time was spent bulking) and after 8 weeks of HST he weighed 157lbs so a 13lb increase in body weight with a 10lb increase in LBM in 8 weeks
So for the record he did not go straight from competition into HST and 'recovering the size lost during the cut'
Could be I have OCD but I have always tried to have all the facts to hand before entering into discussions and as I had remembered you had posted info before just looked back and got them.I like your attention to detail. I did 5x5, German volume training and DC training before coming to HST in that year. I was doing a very lean bulk (not trying to let my weight get out of control). I think maybe he hasn't had the success that others has had on this system and credits it to the system and maybe not on nutrition or other factors. I would love to know why, he is on this pursuit.
Could be I have OCD but I have always tried to have all the facts to hand before entering into discussions and as I had remembered you had posted info before just looked back and got them.
I feel that Rihad has religiously followed HST for a very long time (5 years I believe) without getting the results he expected, I still feel that the system works but some people have to modify it to suit their own bodies, for me I do not zig zag so I am pretty much always training at 90% or above of my rep max for each block (so in effect I start at approx 57.5% of 1rm incrementing 2.5% twice per week) and Rihad believes that is why I grow because I do not really train at sub optimal weights, he may be right but it is what works for me - I like the structure and knowing what I will be doing from week to week again it could be OCD!!!!!
Golfnut, good luck on the Ninja show. After that, you may try some Myo Rep training along with DUP and HST. I have seen some nice growth when I thought I was pretty well maxed out.
What I said was solely my opinion based on my own experience.Rihad stop trying to twist people into your theories. Even more, stop proclaiming them as fact when far more successful lifters completely disagree with you and your personal interpretations of studies.