<div> (bluejacket @ Oct. 14 2006,04:32)</div><div id="QUOTEHEAD">QUOTE</div><div id="QUOTE"><div> (Totentanz @ Oct. 13 2006,19:56)</div><div id="QUOTEHEAD">QUOTE</div><div id="QUOTE">With regards to dips, I don't get shoulder pain so much, but sometimes I get pain in the sternum sort of like Lol was talking about. It can feel like I'm about to break in half right there. Ouch...</div> yes this is similar to the type pain im talking about. my shoulder flexibility is not what it used to be and perhaps there is some lingering scar tissue from the surgery.... the pain/strain is def. in my shoulder area and some in the sternum/clav. usually i i only really feel the stern/clav pain when i finish my last rep and release the bar......ouch</div> bluejacket: I've found that if I gradually take up the tension with my legs at the end of a set of dips that the pain on release is greatly reduced. I use a dip station with a raised foot platform to make this possible. Liege: Wow, those are some big lifts to look forward to. How long do you think it'll take to get there?