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(scientific muscle @ May 16 2007,11:59)</div><div id="QUOTEHEAD">QUOTE</div><div id="QUOTE">Thanks for your friendly (unasked for preaching) advice.
<div></div><div id="QUOTEHEAD">QUOTE</div><div id="QUOTE">yes in my opinion AAS are unhealthy but I am not going pass judgement on someone who decided to use them.
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before that statement, You already did....
<div></div><div id="QUOTEHEAD">QUOTE</div><div id="QUOTE">good, I dont want to discuss health with someone who doesn´t practice it</div></div>
Since when is advice considered preaching? I wasn´t telling you not to juice, just advising you to have your heart checked if you do. I also did toss out any ad hominum attacks on you or anyone for using juice.
As far as the rest of your statement and the lectin mess, I will leave it alone.
(scientific muscle @ May 16 2007,11:59)</div><div id="QUOTEHEAD">QUOTE</div><div id="QUOTE">Thanks for your friendly (unasked for preaching) advice.
<div></div><div id="QUOTEHEAD">QUOTE</div><div id="QUOTE">yes in my opinion AAS are unhealthy but I am not going pass judgement on someone who decided to use them.
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before that statement, You already did....
<div></div><div id="QUOTEHEAD">QUOTE</div><div id="QUOTE">good, I dont want to discuss health with someone who doesn´t practice it</div></div>
Since when is advice considered preaching? I wasn´t telling you not to juice, just advising you to have your heart checked if you do. I also did toss out any ad hominum attacks on you or anyone for using juice.
As far as the rest of your statement and the lectin mess, I will leave it alone.
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(RUSS @ May 16 2007,12:37)</div><div id="QUOTEHEAD">QUOTE</div><div id="QUOTE">I can't take it any more, I've lost the will to live- have purchased several large sacks of peanuts; goodbye cruel world...
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it might be faster to mix the peanuts with 1 kilo of Potassium Chloride in a blender plus 1 liter of water and drink it down fast.
(RUSS @ May 16 2007,12:37)</div><div id="QUOTEHEAD">QUOTE</div><div id="QUOTE">I can't take it any more, I've lost the will to live- have purchased several large sacks of peanuts; goodbye cruel world...
it might be faster to mix the peanuts with 1 kilo of Potassium Chloride in a blender plus 1 liter of water and drink it down fast.
Morgoth the Dark Enemy
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You`re screwed. Throw it up/out at once.
scientific muscle
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milk is poison too. Your lungs will fill with fluid and you won't be breathing in a few hours. puke now!
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(drpierredebs @ May 17 2007,00:39)</div><div id="QUOTEHEAD">QUOTE</div><div id="QUOTE"><div>
(Aaron_F @ May 16 2007,05:08)</div><div id="QUOTEHEAD">QUOTE</div><div id="QUOTE">provide some literature to support your claims around lectins or androgens for htat matter, then it can be discussed
otherwise its pointless garbage</div>
ah yes, references for my massive claims that lectins are not that healthy.
you have access to pubmed.
type in lectins AND blood or AND H. pylori or AND any number of topics.</div>
No, You make the claims, you provide evidence to back them up.
Its nice when people follow the typical internet side-step of "you do it, you have access"
Explain to people what foods provide lectins to the human diet.
<div></div><div id="QUOTEHEAD">QUOTE</div><div id="QUOTE">as far as steroids are concerned, I would rather believe the sports cardiologist than any website called testosterone nation, you or bucket head bbrs roided out and ready to beat on everyone who even dares to call into question steroid use. what a joke. I have no intention debatting AAS, androgens, steroids or whatever other growth hormone related substances you want to call it. The advice to get your heart checked is not a topic for discussion and it is not debate. It was a suggestion that needs no references from my part. it was just some kind helpful advice. good luck.</div>
I dont follow any of those websites, maybe you should pull your head out from between your buttocks and understand research, rather than relying on the opinion of a "sports cardiologist"
<div></div><div id="QUOTEHEAD">QUOTE</div><div id="QUOTE">but for starters you can check : or buy yourself a current sports cardiology textbook: otherwise posting pubmed references to journals you have no access to is pointless and I am not going to synopsis everything everytime I spit something out.</div>
I have one sitting beside me. Most sports cardiology text talking about androgenic/anabolic steriods make the same half assed extrapolation from abuse situations (case studies) to any and all cases of androgen useage. This is a logical fallacy.
<div></div><div id="QUOTEHEAD">QUOTE</div><div id="QUOTE">good luc
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez...._DocSum
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its always nice when somebody provides references that I have copies of. You understand the assumptions required for extrapolating observational data onto everyone?
<div></div><div id="QUOTEHEAD">QUOTE</div><div id="QUOTE">http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez...._docsum</div>
Once again, observation is fun. Even better when its a letter to the editor complaining about somebody's elses work from the same authors in the previous piece.
<div></div><div id="QUOTEHEAD">QUOTE</div><div id="QUOTE">http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez...._docsum[/</div>
wow, who would have guessed there would be observation again....
Here goes a simple point for you.
What is the difference between use and abuse?
What risk is there related to androgen replacement at normal doses?
What other things can cause health issues when abused?
I could go on but its really boring.
(drpierredebs @ May 17 2007,00:39)</div><div id="QUOTEHEAD">QUOTE</div><div id="QUOTE"><div>
(Aaron_F @ May 16 2007,05:08)</div><div id="QUOTEHEAD">QUOTE</div><div id="QUOTE">provide some literature to support your claims around lectins or androgens for htat matter, then it can be discussed
otherwise its pointless garbage</div>
ah yes, references for my massive claims that lectins are not that healthy.
you have access to pubmed.
type in lectins AND blood or AND H. pylori or AND any number of topics.</div>
No, You make the claims, you provide evidence to back them up.
Its nice when people follow the typical internet side-step of "you do it, you have access"
Explain to people what foods provide lectins to the human diet.
<div></div><div id="QUOTEHEAD">QUOTE</div><div id="QUOTE">as far as steroids are concerned, I would rather believe the sports cardiologist than any website called testosterone nation, you or bucket head bbrs roided out and ready to beat on everyone who even dares to call into question steroid use. what a joke. I have no intention debatting AAS, androgens, steroids or whatever other growth hormone related substances you want to call it. The advice to get your heart checked is not a topic for discussion and it is not debate. It was a suggestion that needs no references from my part. it was just some kind helpful advice. good luck.</div>
I dont follow any of those websites, maybe you should pull your head out from between your buttocks and understand research, rather than relying on the opinion of a "sports cardiologist"
<div></div><div id="QUOTEHEAD">QUOTE</div><div id="QUOTE">but for starters you can check : or buy yourself a current sports cardiology textbook: otherwise posting pubmed references to journals you have no access to is pointless and I am not going to synopsis everything everytime I spit something out.</div>
I have one sitting beside me. Most sports cardiology text talking about androgenic/anabolic steriods make the same half assed extrapolation from abuse situations (case studies) to any and all cases of androgen useage. This is a logical fallacy.
<div></div><div id="QUOTEHEAD">QUOTE</div><div id="QUOTE">good luc
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez...._DocSum
</div>
its always nice when somebody provides references that I have copies of. You understand the assumptions required for extrapolating observational data onto everyone?
<div></div><div id="QUOTEHEAD">QUOTE</div><div id="QUOTE">http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez...._docsum</div>
Once again, observation is fun. Even better when its a letter to the editor complaining about somebody's elses work from the same authors in the previous piece.
<div></div><div id="QUOTEHEAD">QUOTE</div><div id="QUOTE">http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez...._docsum[/</div>
wow, who would have guessed there would be observation again....
Here goes a simple point for you.
What is the difference between use and abuse?
What risk is there related to androgen replacement at normal doses?
What other things can cause health issues when abused?
I could go on but its really boring.
mewlingthunder
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A smidge off-topic, but I envy you southern lads (Quadancer, ScientificMuscle, others?) having access to boiled peanuts, or "biled pinders" as the old-timers called 'em. I haven't had those in 20 years, but lordy, I could eat enough to bust a gut, be a great bulking snack. I found an on-line source once, and I may break down and do that someday, although it feels a little like Hawkeye Pierce ordering Chicago ribs sent to Korea.
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snipped for peace
scientific muscle
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Please stop giving medical advice. It only makes you appear condescending. If people are in need of medical advice they will get it. A stranger's postings on a bodybuilding forum is the last place anybody should go for medical information anyway.
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(scientific muscle @ May 17 2007,15:19)</div><div id="QUOTEHEAD">QUOTE</div><div id="QUOTE">Please stop giving medical advice. It only makes you appear condescending. If people are in need of medical advice they will get it. A stranger's postings on a bodybuilding forum is the last place anybody should go for medical information anyway.</div>
I snipped it, but I will starting med. school next year(really), so in about 4 years
I´ll repost it then
(scientific muscle @ May 17 2007,15:19)</div><div id="QUOTEHEAD">QUOTE</div><div id="QUOTE">Please stop giving medical advice. It only makes you appear condescending. If people are in need of medical advice they will get it. A stranger's postings on a bodybuilding forum is the last place anybody should go for medical information anyway.</div>
I snipped it, but I will starting med. school next year(really), so in about 4 years
I´ll repost it then
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(scientific muscle @ May 17 2007,15:19)</div><div id="QUOTEHEAD">QUOTE</div><div id="QUOTE"> A stranger's postings on a bodybuilding forum is the last place anybody should go for medical information anyway.</div>
or scientific advice for that matter.
(scientific muscle @ May 17 2007,15:19)</div><div id="QUOTEHEAD">QUOTE</div><div id="QUOTE"> A stranger's postings on a bodybuilding forum is the last place anybody should go for medical information anyway.</div>
or scientific advice for that matter.