Boris Klein arrested

Discussion in 'General Training' started by ZMT, Aug 30, 2006.

  1. Fausto

    Fausto HST Expert

    <div></div><div id="QUOTEHEAD">QUOTE</div><div id="QUOTE">I agree LNT, but as long as the judges are after a freak show, then that's what they'll get.</div>

    That is the whole problem, the freak show! And Freaky they are for crying out loud. [​IMG]

    Some of them have no aesthetics either than the fact that they have hypertrophied some or all of their muscles.

    This is what I always looked for:
     
  2. ZMT

    ZMT New Member

    and Tom is natural ?? [​IMG]

    hmmm not sure about this
     
  3. colby2152

    colby2152 New Member

    What makes you think he isn't? He isn't huge for a bodybuilder. He's just a big and extremely cut guy.
     
  4. ZMT

    ZMT New Member

    so low BF
    and so much muscle
    neeee I would say - still only guessing [​IMG]

    you don't need to be huge to be on 'aid'
     
  5. Lol

    Lol Super Moderator Staff Member

    Anyone read Tom's Burn the Fat book? Is it worth a read?
     
  6. faz

    faz Active Member

    i know some natural bbrs who have a pro card but they will never get to the top [​IMG] [​IMG]
     
  7. dkm1987

    dkm1987 New Member

    <div>
    (Lol @ Aug. 31 2006,08:31)</div><div id="QUOTEHEAD">QUOTE</div><div id="QUOTE">Anyone read Tom's Burn the Fat book? Is it worth a read?</div>
    Check your PM's
     
  8. dkm1987

    dkm1987 New Member

    <div>
    (Fausto @ Aug. 31 2006,02:30)</div><div id="QUOTEHEAD">QUOTE</div><div id="QUOTE"> <div></div><div id="QUOTEHEAD">QUOTE</div><div id="QUOTE">I agree LNT, but as long as the judges are after a freak show, then that's what they'll get.</div>

    That is the whole problem, the freak show! And Freaky they are for crying out loud. [​IMG]</div>
    Yup, they are and as long as bigger is better, they will be the standard in the pro ranks. So can anyone blame them for using, I can't, this is their livelyhood, so they pretty much HAVE to use.

    <div></div><div id="QUOTEHEAD">QUOTE</div><div id="QUOTE">I hope that self proclaimed natural bbers like Skip Lacour &amp; Jeff Willet are natural, but they might use pro hormones &amp; perhaps diuretics to get shredded.</div>Hmmm.........100% never ever used, or haven't used in the last 3 mos?
     
  9. Fausto

    Fausto HST Expert

    <div></div><div id="QUOTEHEAD">QUOTE</div><div id="QUOTE">Hmmm.........100% never ever used, or haven't used in the last 3 mos? </div>

    I was just going to say [​IMG] Skip looks too damn built for a natural, as for Tom I could vouch that he does not! But who am I?

    By the way, I'm also interested in the burn the fat book! Or at least info on it!
     
  10. Joe.Muscle

    Joe.Muscle Active Member

    I second that.

    I am sure these natural guys come off in time to test clean.

    With proper eating and heavy lifting you can sustain some of your gains for a while when being off the juice.
     
  11. Lifting N Tx

    Lifting N Tx New Member

    Fausto, I agree that Tom Venuto has a very good build. Other than the extreme low body fat, it's believeable to me that he could be natural. I don't know about that extreme low percentage; didn't think that was possible except under starvation. Of course I'm in no danger of being close to that any time soon.

    I do recall some of the pictures of Eugene Sandow posted on one of these forums recently. If he could achieve what he did, then I think that it's at least plausible that Venuto could have achieved the physique in that picture without gear.
     
  12. xahrx

    xahrx New Member

    <div>
    (Lifting N Tx @ Aug. 31 2006,10:37)</div><div id="QUOTEHEAD">QUOTE</div><div id="QUOTE">Fausto, I agree that Tom Venuto has a very good build.  Other than the extreme low body fat, it's believeable to me that he could be natural.  I don't know about that extreme low percentage; didn't think that was possible except under starvation.  Of course I'm in no danger of being close to that any time soon.

    I do recall some of the pictures of Eugene Sandow posted on one of these forums recently.  If he could achieve what he did, then I think that it's at least plausible that Venuto could have achieved the physique in that picture without gear.</div>
    It's possible. There are genetic freaks out there who just take to this kind of thing very well. Hell, most of the pros are such freaks who simply used steroids to up their game to the nth degree. There is a grey zone where it's hard to tell, but in the end the users are I think self evident.
     
  13. quadancer

    quadancer New Member

    Tom is what I was talking about - big, but not freaky. There are many, many BB'ers out there with similar physiques done with food and maybe creatine, glutamine, and the natty stuff...Hugo Rivera for instance. The MuscleNow author, Francesco Castano- and he hates anything more than a vitamin.
     
  14. robefc

    robefc New Member

    <div>
    (style @ Aug. 30 2006,17:29)</div><div id="QUOTEHEAD">QUOTE</div><div id="QUOTE">Thats it, we need a new cover guy! send any picts too [email protected] and I'll see what I can do [​IMG]</div>
    Woudn't Bryan be a pretty good choice?!

    I mean he's bl**dy big and more importantly he obviously uses HST(!)He would also be making a statement as the owner of the site and the 'inventor' of HST by putting his own pic up there.

    Not that he needs to or anything but I think it would be kind of cool

    Cheers

    Rob
     
  15. MaFi0s0

    MaFi0s0 New Member

    <div>
    (Lol @ Aug. 31 2006,08:31)</div><div id="QUOTEHEAD">QUOTE</div><div id="QUOTE">Anyone read Tom's Burn the Fat book? Is it worth a read?</div>
    I have read afew chapters and skimmed through the others, its a great read for people who want to lose fat, it explains the important things of weight loss wich some people might already know.
     
  16. scientific muscle

    scientific muscle New Member

    <div>
    (robefc @ Aug. 31 2006,13:03)</div><div id="QUOTEHEAD">QUOTE</div><div id="QUOTE"><div>
    (style @ Aug. 30 2006,17:29)</div><div id="QUOTEHEAD">QUOTE</div><div id="QUOTE">Thats it, we need a new cover guy! send any picts too [email protected] and I'll see what I can do  [​IMG]</div>
    Woudn't Bryan be a pretty good choice?!

    I mean he's bl**dy big and more importantly he obviously uses HST(!)He would also be making a statement as the owner of the site and the 'inventor' of HST by putting his own pic up there.

    Not that he needs to or anything but I think it would be kind of cool

    Cheers

    Rob</div>
    Bryan is on the gear too, dude! Of course we can't use him!

    Just kidding! I am pretty sure I read him state somewhere he quit competing early on and is all natural. He is a big, cut guy though, but not freaky. Perfect posterboy for his own training method, and not TOO BIG to turn off people who just want to get fit.
     
  17. Peak_Power

    Peak_Power New Member

    Yeah I 2nd that, and where can I see some pics of Bryan?
     
  18. Lol

    Lol Super Moderator Staff Member

    There were some pics of Bryan visiting a show (Arnold Classic?) a while back. I think the links broke in the thread when all the board problems were around. Not sure if they are fixed?
     
  19. JonnyH

    JonnyH New Member

  20. faz

    faz Active Member

    in britain the natural federations have a ten year drug free policy [​IMG] [​IMG]
     

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