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(quadancer @ Jan. 03 2008,15:57)</div><div id="QUOTEHEAD">QUOTE</div><div id="QUOTE">You could put a sheet of plywood under the mattress or put the mattress on the floor. You very well might get addicted to this extra support.</div>
I used to sleep on a 4&quot; concrete slab. Then I'd put a sheet of plywood under it for increased support...
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All kidding aside (if that's possible), once I discovered how much difference a good mattress can make, I went out and bought a new one. It gave me an entirely new lease on life. It's a remarkable sensation to be able to get up in the morning and walk without having to be bent over.
 
I tried some different tactics with sleeping over the last week and things seem to be better. My lower back was still stiff this morning, but it must be healed up because tonight, I decided to do deadlifts. Yes, I know I said I was dropping them for a few weeks, but I couldn't help myself...

5x225 lbs
3x285 lbs
2x315 lbs
1x365 lbs
1x385 lbs
1x405 lbs
1x415 lbs
1x435 lbs
1x445 lbs
0x460 lbs
0x460 lbs
1x450 lbs

So... I guess it's better. I got excited because the weights felt so easy to pull and tried for 460, which would have been a PR, but missed it. I guess I'll have to be happy with 450.

I might go back downstairs and do some dips, maybe a few other things, I haven't decided yet.

Considering that I almost got the 460, I think another couple of weeks once my back is totally healed should get me that 460. I also worked my ass off today which probably didn't help. In two weeks or maybe next week if I can't help myself, I'll do them on a day I am off, start off fresh and maybe take some stimulants like caffeine or ephedrine beforehand. Maybe I can do better than 460 even, but I'll honestly be happy with just that.
 
now that you know your back and have a pretty good idea of what you can handle you wont have to do such a slow, incremental progression up to 460.

im all for warming up to a lift but you did a full w/o, including 4 singles over 400lbs, before attempting 460 (twice) and then hitting 450.

if you just pare it down to 225, 315 warm up and a couple singles in the upper 300s lower 400s you should have 460..........i wont say easy b/c 460 does not come easy but with the w/o/ PR attempt you just posted it seems as though you are primed for more then 460 in the near future.

good luck
 
Thanks for the vote of confidence, guys. Blue, you are right. I bet if I hadn't been so worried about my back and had cut the warmup back significantly, I could have hit the 460. In retrospect, I probably would have been best served sticking to the 3x3 scheme I've been doing and doing the 3x3 with my last weight used instead of building up to a heavy single.

That sad thing is, I'm really wanting to go back downstairs and try for it again. But... bad idea...
 
Great lifting Totz. Totally agree with Blue. I'm sure you would have nailed it without all the preliminaries.

I never wrote this in my log, but after I got 205kg (451lb) I tried for 210 (462lb) a few times but didn't get it. I stalled just under my knees the first time and a bit lower the second and third. I just might have got it if I had skipped the 205 attempt but I'll have to wait until the end of this cycle to find out. I know I can pull more than that from my knees on up as I've done rack pulls with 500+, so I might need to work on some haltings to get the first stage of the lift stronger and/or start my rack pulls from a lower pin setting.
 
It is awesome to see all of you guys hit milestones of 400 and 500 pounds on the all mighty deadlift. Keep it up Tot!
 
Seems like we are going to be having a healthy bit of competition going on between some of the regulars here with deads: I'm hopefully going to be snapping at your heels (although I'm kind of expecting you to sail off into the distance once you get your bed sorted), Quad's already snapping at mine (and will no doubt be past me by the time I get back to the heavy stuff!) and I think DW is lifting the same kind of loads too.

Slapz is still way out in front relative to bw (at least while Liege is away playing footy) but as he's not planning on bulking any time soon we have a chance to push ahead with the actual load (I hope).

I'd really like to get 220kg (484lb) at around 100kg (220lb) bw as that will finally land me in the Advanced section of the Deadlift Strength Standards chart by Rippetoe, Kilgore &amp; Pendlay. I'll feel like 500lb is within my sights when I get that. Maybe this year?
 
Yeah I'm in the 400s now on my deads. Not sure of my exact max because it felt like I could have shot a bit higher when I tried the 400 mark. Although the weights at the gym that I tried the lift at were rusty and so was the bar. Not all the weights there are though. So they weight tends to feel heavier than the same exact amount at home. I'm not exactly sure what the weight really added up to due to all of the rust build up. I am hoping to break 500 eventually. Maybe if I get lucky it will be within the middle of the year.
 
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(Totentanz @ Jan. 07 2008,18:15)</div><div id="QUOTEHEAD">QUOTE</div><div id="QUOTE">tonight, I decided to do deadlifts.

5x225 lbs
3x285 lbs
2x315 lbs
1x365 lbs
1x385 lbs
1x405 lbs
1x415 lbs
1x435 lbs
1x445 lbs
0x460 lbs
0x460 lbs
1x450 lbs</div>
Owooooooooooooooooooo!

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Terrific lifts!
 
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(Lol @ Jan. 07 2008,22:10)</div><div id="QUOTEHEAD">QUOTE</div><div id="QUOTE">Great lifting Totz. Totally agree with Blue. I'm sure you would have nailed it without all the preliminaries.

I never wrote this in my log, but after I got 205kg (451lb) I tried for 210 (462lb) a few times but didn't get it. I stalled just under my knees the first time and a bit lower the second and third. I just might have got it if I had skipped the 205 attempt but I'll have to wait until the end of this cycle to find out. I know I can pull more than that from my knees on up as I've done rack pulls with 500+, so I might need to work on some haltings to get the first stage of the lift stronger and/or start my rack pulls from a lower pin setting.</div>
I'm in the same boat. I know I've got the back strength, it's the legs that are failing me. I can't do rack pulls anymore since my rack is outside and it is too much of a pain hauling enough weight and the bar out to the garage to do rack pulls... almost worth it, but not quite.

Anyway, considering that you squat more than me and have enormous legs, I'll probably be trailing behind. But then again... if I make deadlifts my top priority, then maybe...

It's actually really neat seeing the progress a lot of us have made. Looking at a lot of us and what we were lifting a long time ago compared to now is a testament to what hard work will give you.


I put some boards under my mattress last night before I went to bed and it was a lot more comfortable. My back still felt pretty beat up in the morning, but it was a different kind of sore. It was the good kind. Still a little stiffness and such in the lower back leftover, but not that I have my bed situation sorted out, I expect that to be gone by next week.

Now if I can just get my diet in line. I'm not eating nearly enough.
 
Darn, should I really be helping the 'competition'?
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...anyway, I concur with Blue and Lol...you did a full workout before doing your heavies!
I had a previous 435 single. I got the double with this:
225x3
315x3
385x3
405x2
435x2 went up like butter.
445xfailed.
I believe in doing minimal warmup, with big increments for maxes. Because that's what works for ME...and some others; not because it's a principle or anything. It just saves strength for the main lift, which is enough of a workout by itself IMO. At least for deadlifts.
I wanna see you get that five man. A guy my size doing that weight. Inspiring.
 
Good workout today. Highlights:

275 lb single on pendlay rows

I also managed to pull 305 lbs on rows with bad form. I couldn't do more than 275 while keeping good form though.

Deads felt heavy, I think I might steal Lol's idea and go to just every other week on deads.
 
I'm doing well alternating squats and deads so far, but sort of felt the wall approaching, so I'm backing off for some MS for now, just to keep the cycle going. Will try maxes again later, but I'm not sure if this is wise or not; having not done regular MS before. What do you think Tot?
 
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(quadancer @ Jan. 13 2008,18:22)</div><div id="QUOTEHEAD">QUOTE</div><div id="QUOTE">I'm doing well alternating squats and deads so far, but sort of felt the wall approaching, so I'm backing off for some MS for now, just to keep the cycle going. Will try maxes again later, but I'm not sure if this is wise or not; having not done regular MS before. What do you think Tot?</div>
I think it is a good idea, especially if you are taking Superdrol (or whatever it is called now) since max-stim should go very well with that.

One caveat - personally, I find it a bit difficult to use higher loads with deads/squats while doing MS unless you cut the reps for those lifts back a bit. I think 15 reps is more than plenty with deads and squats.
Even doing just 15 reps - which really, if you think about it, is a lot of reps with the loads you'd be moving - should be plenty of strength gain on those lifts for later on when you do push for maxes again.
 
Hmm, that's good food for thought. Today saw my 77% with increasing M-times up to 18 secs. The back cramps almost shot me down but the legs felt fine; easy loads. I guess the new 'diol really IS 'drol. It just took longer to hit the sides I guess. Since I don't wear belts anymore, a heating pad comes to mind...
 
Tonight, I took it easy since I didn't get much sleep last night. I also didn't feel like doing rows or dips, so I tried some other stuff out.

Deads
1x5x315 lbs
3x3x405 lbs

Pullthroughs (first time doing these, so I kept it light)
1x10x130 lbs
3x10x170 lbs

Face Pulls
3x10x170 lbs (didn't feel like changing the weights after doing pullthroughs...)

Pulldowns
3x10x170 lbs


I got my dad to do the pull throughs and face pulls with the same weight I used. He's starting to toughen up. I caught him deadlifting the weight my brother was using last time, so maybe soon I can convince him to deadlift something a bit heavier. He's just wary of doing it since he's had back problems for a long time... I keep telling him, deadlifts can help.
 
Yeah I wish I could get my dad to lift with me since he has a lot of free time now. He has back problems too but I try to tell people if you start light and strengthen those muscles over time that it will probably help. He said he is missing a disk in his back though so he doesn't have any support between his bones in that area. So maybe his case is different.
 
My back is still bothering me a little bit, and I think the heavy deads, rows, etc aren't helping. So... I'm doing 15s.

Yes, 15s.

It's been an extremely long time since I actually did 15s. I've been sticking to lower reps and higher volume for a long while now, so I think, while I wait for everything to heal up, I'll go back to a more traditional HST cycle. I'm going to do lower volume, but a fair amount of exercises, since I've been doing abbreviated routines for a long time now. A change of pace should spice things up.
I'm only going to be doing 1 set per exercise until I hit the 5s, at which point I will do 2 sets per exercise, assuming I stick with this until that point. I won't be pushing for new PRs for at least 8 weeks.
Primary goal is to heal up my back and my left elbow, which has been complaining lately as well. I should be getting a new bed in a couple weeks, which will help a lot too. Secondary goal is to get some decent conditioning again, since apparently low rep work does nothing for endurance. Hahah.

I did my first workout today, and damn... it's obvious that I haven't done 15s in so long. I am wiped out even though I was moving around piddly weights. It probably doesn't help that I didn't rest much at all between sets.
I almost forgot how fast workouts can go when you are doing standard HST.

Due to limitations in my home gym, I can't currently back squat, overhead press or do any chins/pullups at all.

Front Squats
1x15x60 lbs

RDLs
1x15x95 lbs

Bentover Rows
1x15x95 lbs

Flies
1x15x15 lb DBs

BB Curl
1x15x60 lbs

Pushdowns
1x15x50 lbs

Lateral Raise
1x15x15 lb DBs


Like I said, light light weights, but it still wiped me out. I did the whole thing in a circuit like fashion though, which probably contributed...
This should be fun.
 
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